• Draconic NEO
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    lemmy.blahaj.zone has a decent amount of women and both their admins are women, it’s not a “women’s space” as one would describe since everyone is welcome there but it’s probably the closest thing one would describe as an instance “by women for women”. I am obligated to mention that it is a queer instance and that many of the women there are either trans themselves or strongly supportive of trans people, and do not tolerate transphobia or anti-LGBT sentiment (including refusal to support LGBTQ people) at all.

    • @[email protected]
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      As much as I appreciate the community and users at Blahaj, in my personal experience, the moderation was fairly wanting. At least a year or two ago (not sure about now), they tolerated some pretty freakish right-wing people who enabled chasers and other weird shit on their communities.

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        31 month ago

        They certainly do not seem very tolerant of that now, they very commonly ban people for thinly veiled homophobia and transphobia that would normally slide on other sites. They do not even seem mildly willing to tolerate the intolerant.

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      spinster exists but I think its the opposite where its antitrans

      • @[email protected]
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        121 month ago

        We all pretend that it didn’t exist and do not acknowledge its presence; that’s the informal rule.

      • Draconic NEO
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        Yeah Spinster is generally considered a hate site, and consequently is very widely defederated, even from general purpose instances like lemmy.world. Also it’s less of a Reddit alternative and more of a Twitter alternative but is technically redundant since you can do everything you did on there on the real thing instead.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        The admin behind it is also a man so its for (some) women by a man. Literally the opposite.

  • @[email protected]
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    Lemmy has an undeniable woman problem that it carried over from Reddit. I’ve lost count of the number of pathetic blokes that I have blocked on here for anti feminism.

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      yep it’s pretty horrible. any time gender issues are brought up there’s dozens of comments saying “what about the men” and completely missing the point

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      EDIT: Look at the responses to this comment for the proof.

      100%

      It’s really bad and lemmy is really in denial.

      Sexism here is much worse than it was on Reddit.

      It feels like 2008 Reddit here sexism wise, except instead of Ron Paul libertarians tooting their horns everywhere we have heavy tracked vehicle enthusiasts.

      I did hope lemmy having a left leaning culture would help but it does not.

      Try making any post that focuses on situations uniquely or disproportionally experienced by women and you get mostly “everyone has that why think about women” or “what about men” or “men have it worst” responses.

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        Try making any post that focuses on situations uniquely or disproportionally experienced by women and you get mostly “what about men” or “men have it worst” responses.

        that’s kind of just how controversial things are on the internet though.

        Evens shitposting from men will get similar responses from women, it’s just how it is now. Sort of always has been.

        • @[email protected]
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          291 month ago

          THIS. EXACTY THIS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.

          Me: talks about issue disproportionately affecting women.

          Lemmy User: It’s not really about women. Everyone suffers from this.

          • @[email protected]
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            131 month ago

            Lmao look at that douchebag’s comment history. Its arguably worse that than comment itself. God I wish there was a male loneliness epidemic because these fuckers stopped talking.

            • KillingTimeItself
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              Its arguably worse that than comment itself. God I wish there was a male loneliness epidemic because these fuckers stopped talking.

              oh no funny man on the internet yaps a lot about things.

              I come here for sociological research more than anything.

          • KillingTimeItself
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            yeah bro, it’s the internet, everybody has opinions.

            “yeah so actually i think this is a big problem”

            “yeah evidently it must be a problem, but like, this has always been a problem, and seems to be a consistent problem”

            “YOU’RE LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!!!”

            Lemmy User: It’s not really about women. Everyone suffers from this.

            also to be clear, you are literally straw-manning me here, i’m not saying that “men have to suffer with women having an opinions” nobody cares, it is what it is, i think it’s interesting actually. You’re the one arguing that because people discuss topics that they find personally relevant is somehow “oppressing women”

            I’m not saying you shouldn’t shitpost about that stuff in shitpost threads, by all means do, there’s interesting dialogue in it. I’m just saying this is a common occurrence anywhere on the internet, for any community. Hell go find a community for something as mundane as lego, you’ll find the same shit there.

            Not everybody NEEDS to have their own specific issue that specifically effects them for it to be a valid or real problem. I just think this issue is far broader than most people expect it to be, ironically, i could argue you’re literally behaving the exact same way you claim i am. Because you are, and that’s exactly what’s happening.

            Do i care? No, i don’t it’s the internet do whatever you want.

            • @[email protected]
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              Nah but have you ever considered that the reason that you think that there is a male loneliness epidemic is because nobody wants to hang out with insufferable misogynists?

              • KillingTimeItself
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                no, i don’t think that’s a reasonable answer, because you’re doing the fascist thing of “these people are wrong they need to change, and if they don’t we can justify whatever shitty behavior we want, because we’re morally superior”

                It’s not dissimilar to a lot of nazi rhetoric.

                I think the problem ultimately stems from a disconnect in social development through out society. Feminism has pushed women forward, successfully in a lot of ways, but it has also pulled men back, in a lot of ways, that’s not necessarily bad, but there is now a void there, and there is nothing filling it in, that’s why the manosphere got so big so fast. It’s literally capitalizing on an empty market.

                If you want to solve the manosphere, the solution is simple, we need to fill in the void, and fix this disconnect that’s been happening for probably 75 years now. How we go about that is complicated, and not particularly simple, but i think it’s pretty clearly evident that the problem is aimless/directionless guidance for men especially in the last 20 years. Paired with historically contradictory ideas of manhood. Men are supposed to be strong and protect the weak, but it’s hard to do that when they don’t want it, or need it.

                Once this void is filled in, this shit stops happening, simple as.

  • @[email protected]
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    This seems like a very good niche for someone willing to do it. Problematic accounts could get a site-wide ban instead of each woman having to ban someone herself.

      • @[email protected]
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        641 month ago

        Unfortunately it is niche right now in the fediverse based on the stats. That could change but probably requires a different approach to achieve.

      • @[email protected]
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        391 month ago

        I would guess that most women wouldn’t feel the need to be on a woman-focused Lemmy instance for their main / only account. But, some might want an alt account to discuss certain things there.

        • Otter
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          While this won’t be the case with everyone, it was mentioned a few times in a post I made here a long while back

          https://lemmy.ca/post/9443464

          I’m a woman, and make no attempt to hide that fact in my posts. That said, I also don’t personally have much interest in talking about being a woman, so don’t sub to any of those places you linked.

          Over on Reddit I just sort of let people assume I was male a lot of the time, since it wasn’t really relevant to what we were talking about. But from the start on Lemmy I’ve made sure to call out incorrect assumptions, downvote and give a talking to people stereotyping or being misogynistic, etc etc. And the more of us (of all genders) that make that same decision, the better things get

          • @[email protected]
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            That’s pretty brave of you. It’s a lot of work to fight people’s assumptions, and I’m sure it results in harassment.

            But, you’re right that things will never change if women don’t do that. It’s a chicken and egg thing. Nobody wants to be the first to do it, because whoever’s first gets harassed the most. But, if enough people do it, it won’t be abnormal anymore.

            Good luck, and thanks for trying to make women on the internet more normal.

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        I don’t know of any “men only” instances, the fact that it’s gender-specific is niche rather than the specific gender.

        • @[email protected]
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          Same reason womens magazines are more popular than mens magazines and womens subreddits and websites are more popular than mens.

          Maybe one day we’ll have full equality and it’ll be weird to think of “women’s spaces” as something that’s necessary. But it’s very much so today.

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          I don’t believe they actively intended to exclude anyone, but there is/was Dull Men’s Club, and I believe they’ve recently rebranded to “Dullsters”.

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        Zero women have tried to make one so far regardless of how many would use a new instance. So it can’t be all that in demand.

        I think it naturally would occur if Lemmy grows in size. There’s not many people here to begin with.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s not niche being a woman obviously. What’s niche is having a community exclude 50% of the population. Nothing wrong with it, but it is niche.

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      this is a bit of how Blahaj works as I understand it, so it’s a good model - if anything I would think Blahaj might already be poised for this kind of instance-level protection of women

      EDIT:

      one of the Blahaj guidelines does include removing bigotry, including sexism, and would be a candidate for a safe space for women:

      Inclusion and Acceptance

      Embracing inclusion and acceptance means listening when people tell you who they are and what their needs are. It means not telling people that you know their experiences better than they do. It means not gatekeeping experiences of identities of others. It means no bigotry such as racism, sexism, anti LGBT commentary, ableism etc. It means doing your best to ensure that you don’t over-talk the voices of folk who don’t share your privileges.

      That said, the women spaces on Blahaj are mostly for trans women, so a more general women’s community would be nice.

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      Lemmy needs block lists users can subscribe to like they can on BlueSky, it would make a huge difference imo.

  • @[email protected]
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    531 month ago

    Youre absolutely welcome to join Blahaj zone. Our wonderful administration team (both of whom are women) bans misogyny whenever it comes around to our communities. The mods for our main communities share a very aggressive moderation policy.

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      They also ban real users instead of the people literally calling their gender “dragonfucker” and “attack helicopter”

      There were a bunch of users who got angry about these users mocking gender expression and then when they told the trolls to fucking stop Ada banned them

      The blahaj admins are trolls

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        I give Ada a lot of credit. In the early days, I had the following interaction:

        TOPIC: Something about sexual/gender preferences, I don’t remember, asking people their preferences

        Me: responds with my preferences (I’m straight cis male, I like women so I’m down with post-transition trans women but pre-transition don’t turn me on)

        Some random user: respectfully asks if I would be willing to date a pre-transition trans man

        Me: I guess, but it probably wouldn’t work due to the fact that what I like about their body, they hate

        Some of those professionally offended people took a misleading screenshot of my response and started screaming about “chasers”.

        Ada did an admin post to the community backing me up and calling those idiots out.

        So unless she’s changed a lot, I don’t think she’s a troll. It would have been easy to go with the mob but she stuck up for me.

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          Still could be TERFS.

          I don’t have any deeper knowledge of that instance, just what I saw in all, so I don’t want to put anything on them. That thought just came across reading your comment.

          I have made a mental remark in the past that the posts and users on this instance are better treated from afar, though.

          • @[email protected]
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            It’s pretty harsh to just casually suggest that a person be a TERF without any specific evidence.

          • cally [he/they]
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            i dont understand, please explain further. if blahaj mods have ignored misandry, that would be a bad thing. hate is generally regarded as bad, and misandry is hatred of men. therefore, misandry should be generally regarded as bad.

            • @[email protected]
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              That’s true on face value. The issue is that accusations of misandry are almost always unfounded, and only made as a way to deflect and to attack women. So when people start talking about misandry, that’s generally a red flag.

              It’s similar to how “all lives matter” is definitely a true and good value - but yet it is almost always said as a way to divert support away from vulnerable groups. So although the literal meaning is good, it is fair to assume that people saying it do not have good intentions.

            • irelephant [he/him]🍭
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              You are right, but what he is calling misandry is not misandry, and so many people like him think misandry is the bigger problem now.

              • @[email protected]
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                Misandry is a huge problem in the space.

                It’s why I couldn’t stand r/TwoXChromosomes anymore.

                The amount of people saying we should “kill all men” without being banned is insane, if someone typed the opposite they would instantly get dogpiled and removed.

                The blahaj admins have a record of supporting trolls and hateful people, just as long as they use the “right” language.

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                  I feel like the whole supporting trolls thing is overblown.
                  They said that you should still use someone’s pronouns, even if they are trolling, because it sets the precedent that its okay to ignore someone’s pronoun preference.

                  Unless there is more that I missed.

      • @[email protected]
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        The pronoun was just “drag”. PJ is the one who kept calling them “dragonfucker”. You can go read dragonriders comments instead of just repeating gossip.

          • @[email protected]
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            They were already banned for other trolling behavior, just not because they used neopronouns. Please get an actual bearing on reality.

            • @[email protected]
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              Sorry I’m not allowed to use that space because I called a troll a troll before the Admins felt like doing their fucking jobs.

              I’m not going back now, blahaj is a cess pool controlled by trolls.

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        “dragonfucker” and “attack helicopter”

        i mean, if they’re doing it as a haha funny, i see no harm, but if they’re also being assholes, i think that takes precedent. You aren’t legally required to fill in your gender tagging appropriately so.

        • Like the wind...
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          They are an asshole though, a serial pot stirring drama seeking troll that gets people banned for reacting to their ragebait. Yeah I identify as a refurbished ebike and you must relearn English to refer to me, and you only rather not because you agree with literal genocide. Funny!

        • @[email protected]
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          I haven’t seen the attack helicopter and the joke is pretty damn old tbh, but drag at least is/was kinda funny. Drag’s profile specified that drag’s pronoun is “drag” in not just third, but also first and second person, which is an interesting concept. Drag also stayed in character in drag’s posts. Drag didn’t ever really bother people with the whole thing IMO.

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            yeah, it’s a dead beat joke, it’s come around to the point now where you can do it ironically and nobody cares. Though i guess you could still just be an asshole at that point lmao.

    • katy ✨
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      also our wonderful admin kaity did what the lemmy devs couldn’t and nuked the dm spam :)

      • @[email protected]
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        It really seems like instance admins tend to do a much better job with a lot of stuff on here than the core devs. Its a shame that forking would take as much work as it would.

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          well some of the devs are too busy arguing over which authoritarian boot tastes the best, all under the guide of leftism, so yeah I imagine the bar isn’t exactly high

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      Pfft, I’d say overly aggressive to a fault. It’s not a good thing when they’re banning people for a passing comment where the worst offence is “gatekeeping” rather than something that matters.

    • @[email protected]
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      As much as I appreciate the community and users, there are (or at least were) serious moderation problems on Blahaj, I did not feel safe there when I tried it a year or two ago.

      • @[email protected]
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        I definitely cannot agree. I encourage anyone who has any issues with moderation to make a post in the Blahaj meta community. Ada and Kaity have been spectacular and have responded to every issue I have come across. There are limits, they can’t preemptively prevent any kind of moderation issue but they respond quickly.

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      Probably the … fourth-worst well known instance. Idk if that’s a good suggestion.

  • @[email protected]
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    Most of the fediverse is male, and there’s a significant trans woman space, but there’s no spaces that really cater to cis women or to trans men specifically that I’ve seen.

    And yes, I think it’s reasonable to look for a space that is strongly (though not exclusively) cis-woman, in the same way that a Protestant would feel out of place in a Catholic community, even though they’re all Christian. I imagine most cis women feel the same way as I (a cis man) feel when going to blahaj - like a friendly, allied visitor in a foreign land.

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    its kinda sad how one of the biggest women’s community on the lemmy/mbin side of fedi is [email protected]

    i mean, it’s a great community, but yea.

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      There seems to be a majority of males even in that community though

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        every femcel community gets invaded by guys at some point. see: r/letgirlshavefun and r/femcelgrippysockjail. theres one that went private and thats keeping out the men really well (and is the only community im still on reddit for)

        • Ricky Rigatoni
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          Well maybe if girls weren’t weird and trying to make shaving fun they wou

          I don’t know how to finish this joke I’m tired. Finish it for me i give quest xp

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        Idk the majority of posters there are transfems afaik, with a smattering of femboys posting as well.

      • @[email protected]
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        Are you talking about browsers/commentors? Cause almost all the prolific posters are women, unless you’re being transphobic

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          I don’t know any of them and would not even recognize their usernames. Just be real, there can’t be that many women, it’s just not consistent with Lemmy’s userbase. To me that sub draws more attention from men who view it as a fantasy. Read the comments and the posts, many of them don’t seem legitimate

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            Erotador, totallynotjessica, kewwwi, and squirrel are by far the people who post most there and they’re all women.

            My yin, I’m the one with the blahaj zone account here

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            i can assure you that the majority of regular posters on femcelmemes are in fact women, and many of the regular commenters as well. this is in part because of the wonderful dedicated group of posters who keep the vibe immaculate, and if it werent for femcelmemes, myself, and many other women would be much less active on lemmy.

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      Hahaha the name doesn’t do it justice tbh, *cel has connotations that femcelmemes really just doesn’t have

  • @[email protected]
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    But like what even is a social media for women? I wasn’t aware the ones we currently have were for men

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      reddit has /r/TwoXChromosomes which is one of my favorite subs. It’s a general womens subreddit, and though it obviously leans feminist it’s not its main purpose. It welcomes all genders, but remains a womens space.

      The fediverse could really use that energy.

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          Damn women appropriating witchdom. Excluding boywitches just reaffirms the patriarchy’s gendering of magic. It’s re-inventing the same gender roles.

          • @[email protected]
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            Neither the WvP subreddit nor the Discord excludes men from identifying as witches or from participating in discussions.

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                Woman-centered is not an absolute. One does not have to be part of a single characteristic of a group to have a stake in it, to be an ally, an advocate, a partner, a family member, among countless other scenarios.

                I would suggest reading up on intersectionality.

                By the way, all of this is covered in the subreddit sidebar, including in an FAQ in the wiki.

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            I’m sorry, what?

            It’s women-centered because it’s “against patriarchy”… not because it’s witchy. And they are trans & queer inclusive as well.

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              I think it would be even more against patriarchy if it was enby centered. They should change that.

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                You need to stay away from feminism and enby activism entirely until you’ve humbled yourself and seriously sat with how problematic this take is.

                You’re not helping anybody with that. Least of all enbies/trans people. And not just because it makes us look bad either, though that’s certainly part of it.

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                  I don’t know how problematic this take is, and since you can’t explain how it is, I’m convinced you don’t either. You’re just having an emotional reaction to deviation from the gender binary’s norms, which construct womanhood as the opposite of manhood.

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        Yeah but thats a subreddit not REDDIT itself, you can similarly start a /c/TwoX on just about any Lemmy instance.

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          While I do agree with what you’re saying, I actually think a “by women for women” instance has a slightly different impact than a “by women for women” community. There are definitely pros and cons for both, though

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        We used to have an equivalent on our instance, but it was constantly flooded with reply-bros and trans people complaining about the name, so we archived it as no women was willing to moderate it (for understandable reasons).

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        I wondered if they made the jump over here. Guess not, sadly. Reading that sub has made me a better man, because it offers some pretty harsh critiques of male behavior.

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      Its all technically ran by trans women which is mildly interesting, like the mods of 2x and the others on reddit and here I think

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        on reddit every female sub is ran by the same woman

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    beehaw.org aspire to be nice, friendly diverse and safe. But they’re more towards nice, not women. And we have lemmy.blahaj.zone for queer folks. To my knowledge, there isn’t a place aimed towards women. Maybe heehaw is the closest… Still not really a fit.

    You could go ahead and also ask in some of the women communities, see how they get along here on the Fediverse.

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    The comments here make me very disappointed in our little corner of the internet. If anyone wants this but doesn’t know how, neither do I but I’d be happy help.

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      I am disappointed but not surprised. The attitude of men here reminds me a lot of default subs in Reddit. People tend to be more civil, but there is so much “but what about men?” when talking about women’s issues or belittling women still. Business as usual on the Internet, but I can see why it would cause women to avoid Lemmy.

      I haven’t been back to Reddit, but it makes me miss the small niches where I didn’t see that as often.

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        I’ve said it many times before and I’ll say it again, gender relations here are worse than they were on reddit when I stopped using it.

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          It’s a more niche “back room” kind of forum, so there are less casual browsers and more technerds here, which makes it predominantly male for a lot of reasons that require a whole other discussion to analyse, but it’s exactly like when reddit was a niche “back room” website gaining popularity.

          Lets not forget when reddit started, it was absolute chaos, some of the very worst communities imaginable where at home there, and the userbase RAGED every time some pedo or hate sub got purged. But they did get purged, and it became welcoming for a more diverse group of users to participate in. (Until the bot nation attacked)

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          i wonder if it’s not just worse on lemmy, but gotten worse over time, with the manosphere shit and all it’s relevant problems, neither feminism nor the manosphere, or traditional male gender role has really addressed this issue comprehensively, and we’re starting to see pushback from this issue in real life now, men are enrolling into college less than women, they do worse in most environments, and also are generally worse when it comes to mental health.

          I wonder if we just need like a dedicated “social issues space” where people can talk about this stuff.

        • @[email protected]
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          I mean there’s like 3 women on lemmy, and 2 of em are trans. I don’t think there really ARE any gender relations here.

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        womans only spaces (popping up because of male dominated spaces) do lead to male only spaces but who cares, ppl that want to be in those spaces can stay there idrc, they dont want my input I dont want theirs

        • @[email protected]
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          Yeah, it’s natural to have spaces that aren’t for me. It’s fine. I really just have an issue with spaces where I am supposedly welcome to be hostile towards me.

    • @[email protected]
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      I think there’s a few tutorials about how to set up your own lemmy instance. If so compelled; go for it! If you have any sort of IT background it’ll probably be pretty easy.

      • @[email protected]
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        blahaj.zone is a great one I’ve found. Extremely inclusive, brooks absolutely no bullshit from bad faith actors.

        Is also very very queer tho JSYK

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          Except the Drag person, obvious troll they keep around.

          • @[email protected]
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            People are fucking weird about drag.

            Honestly there are far more worthy things to get pissed about this day and age, open a window

            • Yeather
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              I just blocked them and moved on. It’s just insane it took so long for the admins to finally ban them.

              • @[email protected]
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                Dragonfucker isn’t a gender, you enabling trolls makes LGBTQ spaces worse for people with real gender identities that experience real discrimination in the real world.

                I bet you feel good when the people you hate get silenced though, like a drug addict chasing dopamine.

                • 🦄🦄🦄
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                  You don’t get to decide what is and what isn’t a real identity :) if that makes you mad, the ban was justified just for that,

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        Either can describe a bar that throws out Nazis or a Nazi bar, depending on perspective.

          • @[email protected]
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            Nah I’m demanding clarity. A clear question “Do you mean excluding TERFs or excluding women” and the answer is “I want to be inclusive”. It may not be meant as such, and I’m definitely not implying that it was, but that’s exactly how a TERF would evade questioning.

            A clear “Fuck TERFs” would have provided plenty of clarity, and been much shorter. Also, it would have said “Fuck TERFs”.

            • @[email protected]
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              Idk man “exclusionary” is literally part of terf I don’t think there’s much ambiguity there. Fuck terfs though.

              • @[email protected]
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                This is transmisogynistic and misogynoir as well as plain old misogyny. Don’t ask me to explain. Just don’t do it.

              • @[email protected]
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                They’re also complaining about “women being excluded from women’s spaces by agents of the patriarchy posing as women”. They’re also not necessarily using “TERF” as a label. They’re using typical fascist-style “words mean whatever we want them to mean in the moment” type of stuff, hiding clear-cut positions behind pretend nuance, hence why I favour clarity.

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    Pardon my ignorance but what would be the point of that? You can sign up on any instance and participate in any women’s communities. It’s not like there’s any way to verify the user’s gender anyway.

    • @[email protected]
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      A community like that would hopefully ban misogynists who go unbanned on other communities.

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        “Community” is the operative word there. OP is asking about an instance.

    • @[email protected]
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      Local feed I guess. I wouldn’t trade my french local feed to another despite the abillity to subscribe to the community that made it.

      • Coelacanth
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        Local feed is one of the best parts of Lemmy conceptually and a very clear indicator that the intended behaviour for users is to sign up to smaller insurances related to their location or otherwise significant individual interests.

      • Ulrich
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        Couldn’t you sign up on another instance and still subscribe to all the same communities?

        • @[email protected]
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          It would only work if I don’t subscribe to any other instances. That’s a bad tradeoff.

          The fediverse needs a tool to surf other instances local feed cause that’s a common issue for both the threadiverse and twittoverse. Soon, we may have enough theme-oriented PixelFed instances for them to have the same issue. I believe PieFed multicommunity feeds to be the best way to tackle it so far but that’s not even a good solution.

    • @[email protected]
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      You really don’t see the benefit to a group of similar people to have a space focused on them, their wants and needs and daily lives? A community of people like them? It’s one of the most fundamental human desires.

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      with enough admin and moderation you could circle jerk your way into a “woman positive” or “woman friendly space” which would be the idea.

  • @[email protected]
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    I want there to be a witchesvspatreiarchy here, but I’m a dude and it’d be messed up if I started it.

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    This idea is pretty cool, i hope they will succeed to achieve that. Imo, we lack diversity on the forumverse except maybe mastodon.

    It would provide an additional security layer, another governance. They could also benefit a lot from local community and can check vote, email, ip…Other have already mentionned good example with blahaj, beehaw…

    On the other hand, it will render the instance more visible.

    On my main instance, jlai.lu, i think we don’t manage well sexist speech. They are moderated, we do our best to explain to our users what’s wrong and slowly change them but we don’t have the same sensibility as women.

    Men explaining women…So we probably missed lot things.

    • @[email protected]
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      I wish I could recommend blahaj, there are a lot of trolls in the space that the admins have successfully been guilted into supporting.

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          I rememebered Blahaj people accusing Lemmy instances of being misogynists left & right without any evidence

          & were censoring anyone, just because they asked for evidence.

          • @[email protected]
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            And what’s the insinuation here, given that being told the instance admin is a woman your response was “That explains a lot”

            • ZeroOne
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              The insinuation here is the instance behaves like a raging misandrist, nuff said.