I’m so sure that this will happen…
Aka they save on delivery costs and your new car racks up miles on your own dime before you even get to drive it.
Imagine it gets into an accident lol.
Who gets charged?
If you thought insurance was expensive before…
“we planned for this edge case, and have programmed the vehicle to quickly leave the scene of any accident where a driver is not present. by accepting delivery (by purchasing a vehicle) you accept that all vehicles are sold as-is. tesla insurance customers get half-off repair claim deductibles for the first 7 days.”
Surely it would be Tesla since you don’t actually have possession of it, right? Right??
Tesla “FSD” switches off seconds before an accident, so this will be interesting.
Yeah, no.
That would be true if any of this self driving shit actually existed, but it doesn’t. Elmo lies. A lot. About everything. So this? He’s just lying again .
It does, and I’ve heard its safer than humans in some cases, but there’s legal issues in the way. Like if a driverless car kills someone, who’s fault is it?
Where do you get any of that?
No, Elmo cara do not drive themselves. On the 5 steps to full self driving, Teslas barely make it to step 2. Full self driving doesn’t exist yet for any brand but most definitely not for Tesla
It’s not happening.
If it waives the destination fee, then I don’t see it as a bad problem depending on how much it would normally cost to deliver vs how many miles.
Dealers: charge bullshit fee
Mftr: “get rid of this bullshit fee by racking up miles right from the factory”
Customer: “this is such a phenomenal deal!”
bullshit fee
Do you think shipping and transportation of goods is free? Do you think truck drivers drive stuff around out of the goodness of their hearts?
Nope, but it also isn’t my problem. Roll it into the price of the car, like everything else, and it can be part of the price that you can discuss and haggle over. Coming to a 50k price just to see another 1k+ this and 1.5k that tacked on is absolute bullshit.
Except that not every place is next to the car factory. Delivery to Portland, Maine is going to be a much different price in comparison to Austin, Texas. Do you also expect the cost of titling and taxes be included in the advertised price? Do you know that those vary from location to location as well?
Do you also expect the cost of titling and taxes be included in the advertised price?
As a European, yes. Absolutely fucking yes. I drove a Model 3 away (a while ago obviously) with all papers in order paying exactly the listed price.
In the USA taxes and titling cost different amounts depending on where you live. It’s easier to calculate once you buy, especially if you are buying in another state than the one you reside in which is a big problem in my state where dealers don’t stock EVs. I had to go to the nearest large city which is in another state from where I reside to get my Bolt EUV.
You can calculate before you buy and each state usually has at least a chart to ballpark what you’ll pay. The easiest way to calculate these taxes would be to not levy them against people to begin with.
When did I say that every place was near an assembly line…? I said ‘not my problem’. It’s a company, they can figure it out.
And yes, yes I do. Again, not my problem. It’s almost like different locations can set different prices or something to compensate for variables. Amazing, what a concept!
Advertising cars would never be feasible on nationally broadcast TV under your system.
They did figure out the problem though. Price set by the manufacture, show cost for delivery on the window sticker, then when you buy they car the title and tax are figured out for where you live. It’s the fairest and easiest way of showing and figuring the price. If you can’t figure out that window stickers are available online and the tax and title yourself before you buy, that’s a you problem. It’s not on the seller nor the manufacturer to post pricing for every state or municipality.
If you want cleaner pricing, demand an end to titling and car taxes.
Eh, I live <1k miles from a Tesla factory, and I wouldn’t be too annoyed at having 1k miles on it when it gets to me. Knock the price down a bit since you no longer need to ship it everywhere and we’re good.
We all know this isn’t happening anytime soon, so I guess it’s only a hypothetical. We can talk once it’s a reality.
I’d want whatever the warranty was to be the same plus the miles.
So if it’s 5 year 50k miles and I get it at 1k, I 'd want 5 year 51k miles.
I suppose that’s fair. But you’re unlikely to see much difference with 1k miles.
It doesnt waive that fee because it is a federally required fee to be applied to all vehicles regardless of their… destination. Uhg.
your new car racks up miles on your own dime before you even get to drive it.
What? LOL You would prefer to coordinate to have someone drive you over and then drive it back home for the pleasure of…watching the miles roll over in traffic?
Ever used your eyes while driving? You’ve probably seen those car transport semis loaded up with new vehicles, transporting them to dealerships.
I see where the confusion from. The OP says “from the factory floor”, but that was never said.
In a new post on X by the official Tesla account, it posted “One day it’ll drive itself right to your house” to which CEO Elon Musk replied with a simple “this year”.
Have you never had something delivered to you before? Does the amazon driver pick you up and take you to the warehouse so you can personally pick up your package?
I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say. Are you under the impression that Tesla operates a concierge service that picks you up from your home?
No. What I’m saying is you can have the car delivered to you without it racking up miles by carrying it on a semi. Having it drive itself to you starts depreciation before you even get to ride in it, not to mention the warranty limits based on mileage. What you said in your original comment about expecting to be picked up so you can drive it back home is ridiculous, that’s why I responded with an equally ridiculous scenario.
Okay so the car driving itself to you is ridiculous. Having someone drop you off to pick up the vehicle is ridiculous. How does the car get to your house without being ridiculous, exactly?
By being delivered on a truck? Not sure if this is a regional thing if you’re not in the US, but it’s not unusual to get a car delivered to your house on a flatbed truck or semi in the US. How do you think cars get transported around the country?
They get delivered to the dealership, not your house?
And also, who doesn’t want hundreds to thousand of miles put against your warranty.
Assuming there is any reality to this (big assumption), I assume you are looking at the distance to the nearest distribution center (so Tesla “Not a dealership for legal reasons”). So a lot closer to hundred than not.
Mostly because Factory->House requires a lot of automated charging technology. Whereas Factory->Truck->Dealership->House still lets them take advantage of scale (a truck truck) and can go on a single battery charge.
Yeah, I live like 10 miles from a Tesla dealership, about 1k from a Tesla factory. If having the car drive to me is cheaper than loading it on a truck and taking it to my local dealership, I’m fine with it having 1k miles.
This is all hypothetical though. There’s no way this timeframe is happening.
The shortest distance between Tesla and your house is a full circle around the country.
Also at the odometer rate of Tesla Miles, where the warranty runs out faster.
Anytime Elon says anything about Tesla with a timeframe, you can guaran damn tee that it will not happen within that time frame.
If you double it, you might actually be somewhat close to hearing a believable date for the actual time frame.
That’s not going to be enough…the dude claimed “coast to coast” autonomous driving capabilities “by end of the year” back in 2016.
Earnings call is today
Ah so more market manipulation… got it. Jesus I hate this douchebag.
Yet another lie.
The shareholders should sue.
Tesla lost 6% of its value today so I’m sure Elmo felt compelled to find something to pull out of his ass.
He’s always lied about the self-driving capabilities of the cars and promised timelines that have never held. Print this statement out and use it as toilet paper
But what about my Elon Musk? Sorry, I mean sensitive anus.
But who’s gonna fix your wall?
It does beg the question who pays the insurance until your get it the first time. I suspect you do though.
Not only that, who will provide the cover.
[ Doubt ]
He’s lying again.
You can tell because his mouth is moving.
Tesla will begin its roll out of its self-driving Robotaxi fleet in multiple US cities in the months to come, already taking appropriate regulatory steps in both California and Texas.
Anyone want to take bets on how many deaths/injuries will there be before they’re pulled?
Infinite is valid all things considered.
Anyone want to take bets on how many deaths/injuries will there be before they’re pulled?
DOGE will make sure it won’t be pulled. They’ll shut down any administration that tries.
This LiDAR tech vs Tesla video makes me wish Tesla will use LiDAR in their self-driving Robotaxi fleet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ&t=556s
They won’t. Musk has a hard-on for doing everything with visible cameras for some stupid reason.
Because he’s cheap and didn’t wanna spend the money. It’s why the interior is so plain for the amount of money you spend.
Infinite is valid all things considered.
Not really. I mean that would require a timeline where humanity is both stupid enough to keep Tesla around and survives indefinitely which is highly unlikely.
Infinite just means it will never be pulled for causing accidents.
Okay, in that case I guess it is possible that we are stupid enough to keep them around and stupid enough to wipe ourselves out so soon that they will be around until the end of humanity.
Yeah, I don’t bet w/ human lives, I’m not an insurance company.
Add it to the list
That guy is a) a relentless liar and b) absolutely insane Why would you say those things? Why contradict yourself at 20 days interval publicly?
Didn’t know that list.
Though, for all I hate the guy, there are a lot of misleading assertions in that list.
[NARRATOR]: It didn’t.
Why is the narrator always Ron Howard in my head?
Because these comments or their sentiment are usually in the style of Arrested Development
It’s Morgan Freeman for me.
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I used to about some things, like when he talked about the how the spaceX rockets worked, but then he went insane. And now I’ve heard there’s a pretty good chance that starship isn’t gunna archive much at all, because its too heavy from the stainless steel they used to make it.
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