Serious question, why is any non-nazi posting on twitter?
To use community notes
Ok, now that is actually funny. well played!
- Non-Westerner that never have or realized alternative platform exist.
- Artist that dependant on mainstream social media reach. (some artists already have 100K+ followers there, fedi also have limited reach due to instance blocking, e.g. you’re on Mastodon.art and want to reach Japanese audience (mainly misskey.io, but t was defederated on most of Western instance.)
- People with social network bubble outside Westernsphere, they only have exclusively local feed on their Twitter.
- People outside Westernsphere that already tried fediverse, but moving back as fediverse is still Western-centric or does not have their own community on feidverse.
- Community that does not have monetary power to invest on their own fedi instance.
- People who need to follow various government entities that are only on twitter and facebook.
For those people they should all contact the government agencies that are still on Twitter and demand they switch to Bluesky.
If people of your country is more likely to use Twitter, moving to Bluesky is not even realistic.
Also, for a lot of countries, moving to Bluesky is like moving from American controlled platform to the same American controlled platform.
When is the last time you demanded a government agency do something that wasn’t already their idea, and they did it
Or mastodon.
Been using Mastodon for about two years now and never going back.
I agree with the sentiment, but the action doesn’t do anything to address the immediate issue
Bluesky is not a true alternative. Just recently there were news about them banning opposition accounts in Turkey.
Or self host a mastodon server.
Need is a strong word
It’s legit applicable for people that have Twitter just for realtime earthquake warning.
At least its applicable for Indonesian users.
Some friends of mine also think Twitter just has better content to consume when scrolling through. Too comfy & don’t care enough about who runs it & the issues to jump off. It gives them what they want.
Inertia, at least in some cases. It takes a lot of work to rebuild your audience. Leaving is accelerating, though, albeit slowly.
In other words, the so called “Networking Effects” (which have nothing to do with technical networks and are actually about how “people go were people are, so the more people are in a place the more people go there, the more people are there, the more people go there and so on”) in the business of social networking that made a handful of players dominant, are very hard to revert.
Some people continue to gaslight themselves into thinking there is something to be gained from the audience they once had
It’s becoming like Facebook, which is were people’s parents, uncles and aunts and even grandparents (as well as technically inept organisations) are, but you yourself either moved on or are too young to have ever wanted to be there (“because nobody my age is there”), only whilst Facebook is merelly a Propaganda outlet for the Far Right, Twitter is openly Nazi.
critical mass probably
Tech people, especially AI researchers, refuse to leave.
It such a large network and great at blasting information out. Lots of youtuber/livestreamers still have to eXcrete on x or less they loose their audience. And it’s not just video, writers also depends on the big ole X megaphone to aunuce book releases, beta reader applications etc etc.
Honestly furry artists are probably the freest from X since they have so many of their own social media sites.
You X following even is part of the reason for publishers to pick up your book.
Add to that some police departments actually use to send amber alerts.
You just have the world’s largest public megaphone in an attention based economy. People can’t leave for anything smaller.
Great points, except:
People can’t leave for anything smaller.
They can and some do. It’s still a choice.
technically yes but if leaving means you loose half your income then is it really a choice.
Of course, but it needn’t be black and white. You can also diversify, make yourself less reliant on a single platform. And by doing so, enable your audience to follow you elsewhere. Or diversify into different activities altogether. And when it’s no longer half your income on the line, then switch.
But doing nothing and saying, “but half my income!”? That’s not only a choice, but also complacency.
True they could spend the extra time poating on blusky first. Thrn on Twitter with a note that all posts are posted first on blusky. Enough people do that it would move the audience. But then people need to care enough to spend that extra time and care about what platform is used. Moat people care Twitter in the same way they care about ipv4 vs ipv6 addresses. Sad but true.
Great, so make it a public utility.
Although insta has been making inroads, it was the default in Japan for a long time for govt info, shop notifications (bars, art galleries, you name it), as well as other customer interaction.
Not everyone wants to only see a highly censored echo chamber.
Right so why post on Twitter then?
Because Twitter is the only social media site that isn’t a highly censored echo chamber.
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Whose being suppressed, do you have an example?
https://gizmodo.com/10-times-elon-musk-censored-twitter-users-1850570720
Do you think this is hard to find examples for?
Clearly, because even that article is bullshit and couldn’t find 10 despite naming it “Elon Musk, King of Censorship: 10 Times the ‘Free Speech Absolutist’ Silenced Twitter Users” lol
Government ordered takedowns are not Twitter censoring people - it’s the government.
As for “cis” and “cisgender” - they’re considered slurs on there, but they’re not censored. You can go on there and post “cisgender” as much as you want.
It’s fucking unreal just how completely lost you magats are. Just fucking upside down in relation to any sort of reality.
This is just too hilarious. The people that are completely out of touch with reality are people like you who say things like this.
Says the guy who actually believes that felon musk doesn’t censor the everliving fuck out of any sort of dissenting view on his privately owned nazi platform.
Just. wow.
But there are “dissenting views” all over X? Pro-Democrat policy and ideology views are not censored. Pro Trans/Palestine/Abortion/every-other-left-wing views are not being censored.
Which views are being censored on X in America? What evidence do you have to support your claim?
And why are you here?
Based on their username and posts they are here to troll.
Yeah, he’s a really low effort bad faith troll that’s been basically just walking into conversations to sling shit everywhere for months. Not even worth interacting with.
Not trolling at all, just have different opinions to the echo chamber.
Being factually incorrect is not an opinion. It’s being factually incorrect.
But knock yourself out: X does not censor, Earth is flat, whatever you want to believe…
I don’t understand how I’m even reading your comments… I guess the censor’s sleeping. It is pretty late.
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Because I can be. The fact that someone being on here with differing opinions upsets so many people is just a bonus.
That’s not censorship. You can still post with that word and it doesn’t get deleted. It just won’t get spread as far and wide. All your followers etc will still see it.
It just won’t get spread as far and wide.
It’s being blocked from being read or seen, as per the definition. They are quite literally censoring a word for political reasons in line with their political agenda. Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.
Do you think they should classify the “n word” as a slur and limit its reach? Is that censorship?
Cis isn’t being blocked from being seen or read.
Thought people would recognize this username and start ignoring them by now. Stop feeding the trolls, kids.
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I love to disagree with things
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Since Musk took over, the censorship requests went from 50% accepted to 80% accepted.
How do you know this?
Someone is very mad all their posts kept getting naughty notes!
Every time i saw a screenshot of these i was really confused why they were still around despite Musk being Musk.
Nobody should use that app. It is a scurge to humanity.
Folks need to make the switch to literally anything else
If you still use twitter (no, asshole, you don’t get to own a letter of the alphabet - fuck off) then you are part of the problem.
I prefer to call it Xitter, with the X pronounced the Chinese way
Yep, this should be standard practice.
And we can call individual messages Xits.
ban it already
Wow, not too long after Facebook adopted the same tactic. They chose to drop their previous processes in favor of having their users take care of it.
Sounds like this is just Twitter struggling to run their platform in the wake of a data center fire though.
Oh no, nuance??
Shut it down! Shut it down!
Why would anyone with any hint of common sense “raise questions” about this. There are no questions here.
Because the notes were not removed, they’re just not working due to data center problems right now. Or, at least, that’s enough of a possibility to raise questions.
Working for me now
I’ll take this opportunity to encourage you to limit your Twitter use as much as possible, you know why.
Stopped using it months ago just kept for the occasional work tweet and so no scammer impersonates me
That’s the way
Eu please put up or shut up. Either hold X accountable, or just say they are big to regulate and can do whatever
elon has never liked community notes; they were just a holdover from old twitter and he’s been desperate to get rid of it.
Oh noes: a private company that has no duty to challenge falsehoods has given up any pretense of giving a fuck.
They asolutely should and likely do have a duty to challenge falsehoods.
The word private makes people feel like it isnt anyone’s business but that isnt the case.
I’d rather “trust” a company that cuts the bullshit with notices like
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.to remind the user that trusting noncredible information from unreliable sources is a ridiculous concept.
Except for the users presenting shit as facts and it being promoted through their platform.
Doesn’t reminding users not to be so gullible address that?
A problem is promoting unrealistic expectations that untrustworthy information is reliable because someone else will unerringly determine the truth & catch falsehoods from spreading. Claiming that ever made sense is bogus.
What is your position here, that they dont have a responsibility or they do?
The platform hosts everyone from nazi sympathisers to famed and accredited journalists, should they be presented as equals? Because if there is no onus and it is all caught under the same blanket warning there is a false equivalency being presented.
That it’s irresponsible to sell a false bill of goods: a company sincere about not giving a fuck & that merely puts out an advisory is more credible than one that entertains illusions that fact-checking all social media isn’t a foolish endeavor. We don’t get that in reality, so why should we pretend we can get that online? Ultimately, the burden & responsibility to work out the truth is & has always been with the individual, and it’s irresponsible to pretend we can sever or transfer that responsibility, especially in an open medium like the town square, social media, or general reality.
There’s also the intractable problem of settling the truth. Why should anyone trust a company or anyone to be arbiter of truth? Infallible authorities don’t exist & they are inevitably going to get this wrong & draw wild conclusions like that pro-palestinian protests are antisemitic & need to be censored. While they could merely place notes/comments of fallible, researched opinions, we already get that with discussions like in real life.
Social media isn’t a controlled publication like an encyclopedia or news agency that chooses its writers & staff. It’s a communication platform open to the public.
Instead of promoting a false sense of confidence that lowers people’s guard with assurances no one can deliver, it’s better to cut the pretense, admit there is no real solution, and remind everyone the obvious—unreliable information from anyone is untrustworthy, so they need to grow up, verify their information, and keep their guard up.
Your argument is built upon the position that it would be impossible to guarantee the veracity when it just is not the case. Make them publishers or whatever is required to have it be a legal requirement, have them ban people who share false information.
If print media, through its decline, is being held legally responsible why cant the richest organisations on the planet be held to the same, or preferrably a higher, satandard?
So, 4chan. You want Twitter to be 4chan.
