I got a Eufy doorbell cam years ago because you can do local storage, but I think in 2022 or 23 they were called out for not being fully encrypted, iirc it was the thumbnails for push notifications that weren’t being properly encrypted.
And that somehow also turned into a realization that Eufy was using those thumbnails to build a facial database because each face had a unique ID in the metadata.
I should really switch away but haven’t had the money, hopefully soon.
it’s so funny to see people on lemmy who fell for cloud connected cameras. you’d think this group would be the last to fall for it, maybe not. i’ve even received them as gifts (very expensive ones) but i just threw it in the trash because that is better than anyone using it.
i’ve even received them as gifts (very expensive ones) but i just threw it in the trash
Wouldn’t it have been better to tell the gift giver that you’re really happy that they thought if you, but for security/moral reasons you don’t want to install it? At least they could have returned it and got their money back.
I do my own onvif cameras but I gifted a ring doorbell to my niece for her apartment. She’s non technical, I can’t support her remotely, and that safety was more important than the loss of privacy of a camera looking out onto a public street.
Actually - yes, some models are really unsafe. There are “reverse peephole viewers” out there that allow people to, well, view into your apartement. And some models are just screwed together, so a burglar can unscrew them from the outside and then try to push down your handle via the hole.
Same. I went with them as a “good enough” option when I needed cameras because I have had a good experience with Anker products, but they’ve slowly enshitified to the point that I’d drop them in a heartbeat if the budget was there.
I got a Eufy doorbell cam years ago because you can do local storage, but I think in 2022 or 23 they were called out for not being fully encrypted, iirc it was the thumbnails for push notifications that weren’t being properly encrypted.
And that somehow also turned into a realization that Eufy was using those thumbnails to build a facial database because each face had a unique ID in the metadata.
I should really switch away but haven’t had the money, hopefully soon.
Why just not ditch the doorbell camera altogether?
it’s so funny to see people on lemmy who fell for cloud connected cameras. you’d think this group would be the last to fall for it, maybe not. i’ve even received them as gifts (very expensive ones) but i just threw it in the trash because that is better than anyone using it.
Wouldn’t it have been better to tell the gift giver that you’re really happy that they thought if you, but for security/moral reasons you don’t want to install it? At least they could have returned it and got their money back.
not really in that situation
They also wouldn’t have noticed that they hadn’t installed it. Honesty in the best policy.
Recycle or upcycle. Trash is one of the dumbest uses. I understand the total logic it’s just not the best case scenario.
I do my own onvif cameras but I gifted a ring doorbell to my niece for her apartment. She’s non technical, I can’t support her remotely, and that safety was more important than the loss of privacy of a camera looking out onto a public street.
The loss of privacy of a camera that records every face that enters your home and timestamps that data…
Because I still think the safety and convenience for my family and I outweighs the privacy impact, it’s a camera pointed at a public street.
It’s a camera pointed at every person who comes to your house.
Convenience? Ok. But safety? Are door viewers unsafe?
Actually - yes, some models are really unsafe. There are “reverse peephole viewers” out there that allow people to, well, view into your apartement. And some models are just screwed together, so a burglar can unscrew them from the outside and then try to push down your handle via the hole.
Very telling that you put convenience on the same level as safety.
Same. I went with them as a “good enough” option when I needed cameras because I have had a good experience with Anker products, but they’ve slowly enshitified to the point that I’d drop them in a heartbeat if the budget was there.