I have seen Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren doing protests and stuff.
It is a bit weird how the Republicans can prevent Scotus noms and stuff and the Dems just sit back. I think the Republicans know their base will always go for them and the dirtier the better. I think the Dems are too fragmented both in terms of how to please their voters and in terms of how to get stuff done.
They are doing a lot of these things, the media is just barely covering it. Here’s that coverage brought up higher. Could they and should they do more, absolutely and do put directed pressure them to do more, but let’s not pretend they are doing nothing. That just creates defeatism instead of the energy we need to keep the pressure up
Handful of the lawsuits that you probably didn’t hear about:
And so many more. There are an insane number of lawsuits going on right now
In delay tactics, they could do more, but they have now starting using them. It’s more than zero that’s for sure. Keep the pressure up here for them to do more. Call your reps to deny unanimous consent more often - it’s starting to get through a bit. Here’s a few examples
It’s more that they can’t do what’s necessary, because they can’t become a worker party. All of their base and funding comes from the bourgeoisie, they aren’t connected with the masses, and even if they tried they would risk severing their real base. The point of the meme is to point out that the Democrats can never be a worker party, so an alternative must be built, like PSL.
Assuming this is in good faith, I would say that the Republicans opposition is pretty right the last few terms. The democrats refuse to learn anything from them though. I don’t need a Democrat screaming that Trump rapes babies or whatever. But like, maybe not voting hand in hand with the Republicans would be a start. Using the debt ceiling fight to gain some ground against the rich. Being on the side of any union at all.
More than hold ping pong paddles with the word false written on them. With the exception of a select few, they’re all basically wet blankets. Let’s see some civil disobedience, let’s see someone getting arrested for standing up for what’s right? Best they can do is ping pong paddles?
It’s true that politicians don’t usually lead, they look to the voting base to see what they can do. I think the issue right now is that there isn’t (yet) a unifying leader that can mobilize a big enough population of people to make it impossible for the media to ignore. while I think smaller protests have their place they are useless if they don’t move to something bigger. And something bigger - that being millions of people filling the streets of multiple cities - won’t happen without a big charismatic leader like Martin Luther King, jr.
Yet the middle of the road, center right democrats that hold power see this as a challenge to their control. They only have to look to how the GOP was hollowed out by a big charismatic leader in trump. The more “moderate” republicans lost control to the more extreme right - the moderate democrats don’t want that and will do what they can to hold down that yet unknown person from gaining a voice for the left.
They could organize protests, they could help workers unionize, they could put their necks out and disrupt things, they could do anything besides stand by and say “oh no, this is so bad.” They have a gigantic megaphone and the ears of almost half the country, their power isn’t limited to the votes they have or don’t have. I want them to be making plans that are bold, plans where they feel a need to account for “how do we make sure this doesn’t turn into an outright riot though,” the things you’d do if you actually believed the rhetoric about Trump being a threat to democracy.
What do you propose they do?
Legislate, sue, protest, and otherwise make it more annoying for Republicans to do anything.
I get that they’re not the majority, so not much legislation will pass, but they still have tactics to delay any actions.
Why are the Republicans the only ones who can find and exploit loopholes in the constitution?
I have seen Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren doing protests and stuff.
It is a bit weird how the Republicans can prevent Scotus noms and stuff and the Dems just sit back. I think the Republicans know their base will always go for them and the dirtier the better. I think the Dems are too fragmented both in terms of how to please their voters and in terms of how to get stuff done.
Solid reply. First realistic thing I’ve heard from someone complaining.
also see: https://indivisible.org/resource/guide
They are doing a lot of these things, the media is just barely covering it. Here’s that coverage brought up higher. Could they and should they do more, absolutely and do put directed pressure them to do more, but let’s not pretend they are doing nothing. That just creates defeatism instead of the energy we need to keep the pressure up
Handful of the lawsuits that you probably didn’t hear about:
Democratic AGs win preliminary injunction against DOGE access to Treasury payment systems
Gov. Josh Shapiro Says Over $2 Billion of Federal Funding Is Unfrozen for Pennsylvania (following PA’s lawsuit)
20 Dem AGs sue over Trump efforts to fire probationary employees
Democratic AGs sue over cancellation of teacher grants
More than a dozen state attorneys general file lawsuit challenging Musk and DOGE’s authority
Democratic attorneys general sue to block Trump’s attempt to end birthright citizenship
Democratic National Committee Files Lawsuit Against Trump
And so many more. There are an insane number of lawsuits going on right now
In delay tactics, they could do more, but they have now starting using them. It’s more than zero that’s for sure. Keep the pressure up here for them to do more. Call your reps to deny unanimous consent more often - it’s starting to get through a bit. Here’s a few examples
Senate Democrats Hold Floor In All-Night Protest of Trump’s OMB Nominee (they held it for the maximum 30 hours)
Scoop: Senate Dems delay Tulsi Gabbard nomination (were able to do so because of some procedural stuff with how she filed her clearance)
Senate Democrats delay Kash Patel committee vote
In terms of protests, they are also speaking and rallying at them with again limited coverage. Here’s a few
Democrats Protest Outside USAID Headquarters as Trump Seeks to Dismantle Agency
Democrats and protesters rally outside treasury department to protest Elon Musk’s access to sensitive information – as it happened
Dems protesting outside the department of education, trying to get in and denied entry
Dems protesting outside of the EPA
And so on
Token efforts…
thank you
It’s more that they can’t do what’s necessary, because they can’t become a worker party. All of their base and funding comes from the bourgeoisie, they aren’t connected with the masses, and even if they tried they would risk severing their real base. The point of the meme is to point out that the Democrats can never be a worker party, so an alternative must be built, like PSL.
Anything
Such as?
Not stand around outside doing nothing.
So nothing specific?
They’re elected for a reason; if we have to spearhead the action, then they’re pointless and shouldnt be there
They’re the ones making millions do it as a career. They should at least be able to do something.
Take their hands off their cocks/clams and stop playing the insider trader market. To start with.
Assuming this is in good faith, I would say that the Republicans opposition is pretty right the last few terms. The democrats refuse to learn anything from them though. I don’t need a Democrat screaming that Trump rapes babies or whatever. But like, maybe not voting hand in hand with the Republicans would be a start. Using the debt ceiling fight to gain some ground against the rich. Being on the side of any union at all.
More than hold ping pong paddles with the word false written on them. With the exception of a select few, they’re all basically wet blankets. Let’s see some civil disobedience, let’s see someone getting arrested for standing up for what’s right? Best they can do is ping pong paddles?
I would argue that’s the responsibility of the people and not a political party
No, that’s what parties are for. Legislation is the job of the government.
It’s true that politicians don’t usually lead, they look to the voting base to see what they can do. I think the issue right now is that there isn’t (yet) a unifying leader that can mobilize a big enough population of people to make it impossible for the media to ignore. while I think smaller protests have their place they are useless if they don’t move to something bigger. And something bigger - that being millions of people filling the streets of multiple cities - won’t happen without a big charismatic leader like Martin Luther King, jr.
Yet the middle of the road, center right democrats that hold power see this as a challenge to their control. They only have to look to how the GOP was hollowed out by a big charismatic leader in trump. The more “moderate” republicans lost control to the more extreme right - the moderate democrats don’t want that and will do what they can to hold down that yet unknown person from gaining a voice for the left.
Go back in time and stack the Supreme Court under Biden.
Go back in time and groom a candidate to replace Biden after his first term.
Go back in time and let Bernie run as a VP or Presidential candidate.
There’s no going back in time but they can learn from their mistakes and avoid repeating them.
The current Democratic leadership is incapable of learning from their mistakes. That’s the problem.
That’s unfortunate.
They could organize protests, they could help workers unionize, they could put their necks out and disrupt things, they could do anything besides stand by and say “oh no, this is so bad.” They have a gigantic megaphone and the ears of almost half the country, their power isn’t limited to the votes they have or don’t have. I want them to be making plans that are bold, plans where they feel a need to account for “how do we make sure this doesn’t turn into an outright riot though,” the things you’d do if you actually believed the rhetoric about Trump being a threat to democracy.