Lemmy’s design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can’t post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you’re basically censored.

Lemmy isn’t designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

  • oce 🐆
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    1142 months ago

    Visible post and comment scores are still going to produce some of this behavior. You may not have a total karma but people will still get dopamine from seeing their posts getting upvotes and be reinforced in doing the same again. So the same mechanisms of social pressure and uniformisation are at play. The worst being when people delete their minority opinion comments because of the downvote pressure.

      • zqps
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        512 months ago

        Yeah but I won’t because I like dopamine.

        • ☂️-
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          52 months ago

          heres 1 (one) dopamine unit for you then

    • sunzu2
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      32 months ago

      Down votes mean I am reaching the correct audience for that specific content

      • @[email protected]
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        422 months ago

        Maybe. They might also mean you’re an idiot.

        Slashdot used to have a multidimensional voting system that would allow you to up or down vote something based on whether it was funny/insightful/correct, etc (can’t remember the dimension). I wish we had something like that. Sometimes it would be useful to mark a comment as “funny, but also wrong”

        • @[email protected]
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          102 months ago

          I had a discussion about using the Slashdot style voting rather than the Reddit style.

          It not only has the additional tag, it has the max “upvote” display limit of 5, and the display code will expand and promote the best rated comments, while hiding the garbage.

          I think comments on most forums would benefit from there being no ‘big upvote’ number to chase, as well as making the highest rated comments in a thread of say, 200, more obvious.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 months ago

            Right, thanks. Still a super useful system, IMO, though I’m sure better versions are possible.

        • @[email protected]
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          2 months ago

          Welcome: Quarkvotes
          Up, down, charm, strange, top, bottom

          Up/down = Usefulness or relation to topic
          Charm/strange = Agree/accurate or not
          Top/bottom = Love/Hate

          I vote you up-charm-top, btw

          • @[email protected]
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            22 months ago

            Not a bad set! I would add something related to “funny”.

            Also, separating agree (opinion) from accurate (factual) would be nice. But I guess you gotta keep it somewhat simple.

        • sunzu2
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          02 months ago

          Maybe. They might also mean you’re an idiot.

          If I am wrong sombody will generally probide a rebuttal tho but deff happens

      • @[email protected]
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        62 months ago

        Genuinely curious, does that mean that, for you, getting downvoted gives you dopamine/a sense of accomplishment?

        Your above comment is in the negative when I’m making this comment. Does that feel good? Again, genuinely curious, hard to put a non-judgemental tone in writing.

        I can’t relate to that feeling, upvotes and downvotes to me show how much a community agrees or disagrees with what I’ve said. Either what I said isn’t right for the community I posted it in or maybe just a generally unpopular opinion if I’m getting downvotes. Might make me reflect but usually no big deal, I’m mostly here for the discussions, memes and current events. Outside of trolling I don’t really see how getting downvoted might be seen as a good thing by a poster.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 months ago

          Does that feel good?

          I just want the absolute value of my comment’s karma to be high. That means it has been read at least that many times.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 months ago

            Oh, so if it’s going to be down voted anyway, then a lot of down votes feels good? Guess that’s more validating than a middling response

        • sunzu2
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          -22 months ago

          If people down vote but are unable to provide a coherent rebuttal, that means that they are rage down voting.

          • @[email protected]
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            62 months ago

            I guess getting people to rage can feel validating, knowing that I’ve made someone rage quit a game feels satisfying for sure.

            I don’t personally feel that way about sites like Lemmy/Reddit/Social-media in general where things are more discussion and social-interaction based though. I guess for my kind of discourse goals, if I’ve made someone angry rather than laugh or understand my perspective, I’ve done a bad job.

          • Fushuan [he/him]
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            42 months ago

            Not necessarily, I usually downvote comments where there are enough rebuttal replies but I still disagree heavily with what’s being said. I am able to provide the Nth coherent rebuttal but I’m just either lazy or I don’t want to contribute to the spam.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 months ago

      Meh, I’ll leave down voted posts. It’s the mods around here who don’t seem to want to leave them up.