They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn’t mean you don’t produce rubbish…

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

  • @[email protected]
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    I’d give this some odds of reducing trash pollution. It can seem frustrating, but it MAY change people’s behavior in a way that reduces litter. Behavioral economics can be counterintuitive.

    EDIT: What matters is the result. If this makes more people litter, they should probably bring back the bins. If this reduces litter, they should keep it this way, regardless of how inconvenient or “stupid” you the reader find it.

    • Séra Balázs
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      No. Most people just start littering when there’s no trash bins nearby.

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          Hardly an issue of stupidity. We’ve got shops a short ride away that sell you disposables with the intent of bringing them into the park. And we’ve got a park that’s removed the bins used to cart the waste back out again.

          The stupidity is in the policy. Either you have to prevent people from bringing this stuff in (incredibly difficult) or you have to manage the waste that exists by centralizing its collection and export (significantly easier and cheaper).

          • @[email protected]
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            62 months ago

            People that litter are atupid/lazy/poorly educated.

            Unfortunately, if you don’t provide bins, some people are going to litter. Does my head in.

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              52 months ago

              Selling food that comes with garbage included, in a location without bins, is littering.

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                12 months ago

                But that’s why you take the rubbish home with you, where there is a bin. Where’s the end user responsibility?

                • @[email protected]
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                  You used “but” as if you were going to disagree with me, but then you didn’t. It was strange.

            • @[email protected]
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              People that litter are atupid/lazy/poorly educated.

              Littering is a function of the laziness of the individual combined with the inconvenience of normal waste disposal. If you live in a neighborhood where trash pick-up is infrequent or unreliable, you’re going to find a lot more littering as a matter of simple convenience compared to one where trash pickups are regular and routine.

              The public expectation of efficient trash pickup also creates social pressure on individual neighbors not to dump illegally.

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        122 months ago

        They’re shit people. I take cans home to recycle because we don’t have proper recycling at my workplace.

        • @[email protected]
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          202 months ago

          Yes, they are. But that does not make it better that there is no bin. I have been in a situation with no bin but trash that can not simply be carried (disgusting liquid) and had to dump it. That is extremely rare for me, I usually pick up others trash. But there are situations where you simply need a bin, no matter how green you are.

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      If you operate a business that sells things in paper plates and wrappers, you certainly have a moral responsibility to have waste receptacles to collect those waste products.

      The problem isn’t that a park lacks trash cans. The problem is that a cafe removed their trash bins.

      • @[email protected]
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        82 months ago

        I feel the same way, but about places that sell coffee having an obligation to provide a public bathroom.

        Glares angrily at 7-11

        • @[email protected]
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          42 months ago

          Let us sing praise for the Rhineland Palatinatian Landesverordnung zur Ausführung des Gaststättengesetzes (Gaststättenverordnung - GastVO -), in effect since 1971, which mandates one toilet each for males and females in every restaurant or pub, and more for larger establishments.

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        The he cafe still has bins inside, they have a way to collect their refuse.

        The park removed the bins since people from the cafe weee likely overfilling it.

        Where does the sign say the cafe removed them…? The sign is from the ministry of forestry and speaks only for what they did. Remove the park bins.

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            22 months ago

            The OP edited their 5-hour old post about 2 hours ago according to the timestamp. Your comment is only 1 hour old 🤔.

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            You’re the one vehemently claiming the cafe removed the bins. So I throw that right back in your ignorant face.

            For my side, we have a nice little sign that explains everything, if you would be arsed to read it that is…