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    Just imagine if there wasn’t a crazy tariff on Chinese cars the figure would be even lower. BYD are making some great cars

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      BYDs are everywhere now in Australia. Not sure what alternative brands are available in the US, is it just Rivian?

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        And other Chinese brands!. The MG4 is super popular in Australia too. Can get it for about $38k AUD ($25k USD).

        Even if Tesla wasn’t tarnished by association with Musk, they have absolutely nothing at the budget end of the market. ie for buyers that traditionally bought corollas, little Mazdas and Hyundai’s.

        And BYD has the whole range, if I want a luxury sedan the BYD Seal goes toe to toe with the model 3.

        I think China is going to eat everyone’s lunch here in the same way Japan did in the 70s/80s, and Korea went in even cheaper in the 90s and 00s (how many Hyundai Excels/Accents were there in Australia in late 90s early 00s).

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        On the more affordable end around here I see a lot of electric cars from Ford, Chevrolet, Kia, and Hyundai around here, and to a lesser extent Volkswagen. On the high end it’s mostly Mercedes-Benz and BMW, sometimes Porsche. Once in a while I’ll see Rivian but they don’t have a dealership in our state. Even more rarely I’ll see Polestar, which does have a dealership in a city at the other end of the state, and at least one person here has a Lucid Air.

        Edit: also on the high end, there’s at least one Hummer EV driving around here.

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        Are you asking if Rivian is the only company besides Tesla selling electric cars in the US?

        No, nearly all major manufacturers sell EVs. Something like 25 brands.

        Edit: although a few of those may still only be selling plug-in hybrids. I know Alfa Romeo is one, for example.

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        Rivian & the 2 or 3 models the big manufacturers have. I see way more hybrids than full electrics in my area.

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        I believe there was a 100% tariff in place pre-Trump meltdown on Chinese EVs in the U.S, making them less viable in that market. The EU also tariffs them heavily, which is quite a pity.

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          The EU also tariffs them heavily

          Yes, to tip the scales back towards fair competition pricing by offsetting the subsidies the Chinese brands are getting from their government. It doesn’t fully offset it though, they’re still quite a lot cheaper than e.g. VW BEVs

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            And chinese EVs are still competitive in the EU. Tafiffs are effective, and can be positive, to prevent dumping and stuff, just not across the board.

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          Ford has 3, the F-150 Lightning and the unfortunately named Mustang Mach-E, and the E-Transit van I think is primarily for commercial customers.

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        rivian isnt even that widespread , and they are still testing some models. i can see them going for IONIQ 5, maybe mercedes, or bmw.