I think a company in Europe doesn’t give a shit that the US government can peek at their data. Their users might care but they certainly don’t.
What’s new is that they no longer trust the stability of the services long term. What if trump slaps a tariff, or asks Amazon to shut down access, or whatever bullshit passes through his head daily? You wouldn’t store your business on Russian servers, and they’re starting to realize the same applies to the US.
They have to give s shit, because they are ultimately responsible for the handling (and abuse, if it comes to that) of the data, and as European companies they are in easy reach of the European law.
Nah, as long as the actual servers are hosted in Europe, you’re compliant with GDPR and European law. The European company is not liable if the US government violates the EU-US framework.
The Processor is not, but the Controller is still required to guarantee appropriate security for personal data.
Appropriate means running a risk assessment and deciding accordingly.
The problem is when in the EU we take as security responsible for healthcare people who handled IAM for Jira tops.
Appropriate means running a risk assessment and deciding accordingly
The risk assessment doesn’t require the company to assess the reliability of international diplomatic relationships. Having your data on EU soil (even under the care of a US company) is enough for compliance.
I assure you that is not true.
Even in my “mild” domain of marketing analytics, vendors exist that are EU companies with EU storage also run by EU companies or they offer on-premise deployment.
And serious companies with users that may signal personal details through behavioral data seek such solutions.
Vendors do exist but they are not required to do so. My last job was at a software vendor, GDPR compliant, ISO & SOC 2 certified, controlling personal data (including salary information) of EU citizens who were not opted in (their employer is the one on the contract). Not healthcare levels of sensitive but still pretty icky in terms of EU law and we had tons of German friends who are real sticklers for the rules. We stored everything on AWS infrastructure and it has never caused any issue during certification or security assessment by clients.
European data on European servers is fine, as long as American agencies can’t just access data on those (which one cannot rule out with American companies).
I think a company in Europe doesn’t give a shit that the US government can peek at their data. Their users might care but they certainly don’t.
What’s new is that they no longer trust the stability of the services long term. What if trump slaps a tariff, or asks Amazon to shut down access, or whatever bullshit passes through his head daily? You wouldn’t store your business on Russian servers, and they’re starting to realize the same applies to the US.
They have to give s shit, because they are ultimately responsible for the handling (and abuse, if it comes to that) of the data, and as European companies they are in easy reach of the European law.
Nah, as long as the actual servers are hosted in Europe, you’re compliant with GDPR and European law. The European company is not liable if the US government violates the EU-US framework.
The Processor is not, but the Controller is still required to guarantee appropriate security for personal data. Appropriate means running a risk assessment and deciding accordingly.
The problem is when in the EU we take as security responsible for healthcare people who handled IAM for Jira tops.
The risk assessment doesn’t require the company to assess the reliability of international diplomatic relationships. Having your data on EU soil (even under the care of a US company) is enough for compliance.
I assure you that is not true. Even in my “mild” domain of marketing analytics, vendors exist that are EU companies with EU storage also run by EU companies or they offer on-premise deployment. And serious companies with users that may signal personal details through behavioral data seek such solutions.
Vendors do exist but they are not required to do so. My last job was at a software vendor, GDPR compliant, ISO & SOC 2 certified, controlling personal data (including salary information) of EU citizens who were not opted in (their employer is the one on the contract). Not healthcare levels of sensitive but still pretty icky in terms of EU law and we had tons of German friends who are real sticklers for the rules. We stored everything on AWS infrastructure and it has never caused any issue during certification or security assessment by clients.
European data on European servers is fine, as long as American agencies can’t just access data on those (which one cannot rule out with American companies).
There is no requirement for the company to think about that. The majority of GDPR-compliant companies still store on AWS/GCP, just on EU servers.