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  • @[email protected]
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    29 days ago

    You leftist rabble-rousers with your lofty ideals of “not doing a genocide” don’t know anything about getting elected and getting things done

    *loses 2 elections to the most disliked president in history*

    DAMN YOU PUTIN!

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      You gotta understand, we only had three months to distance ourselves from Biden but also didn’t want to. It was the only way to make sure the donors were happy. You understand right? Stop blaming us for taking no positions and blame yourself for demanding us to take a position to secure your vote. It was a completely unreasonable ask and you knew it!

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      3229 days ago

      What next, you’ll demand to be able to afford rent AND food on the average wage? Pick one and be grateful

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      No one said it was fine that Harris supported Israel.

      What we all said was there are only two candidates who could win the election, and they both support the genocide. We condemned the one-sided criticism, not the facts.

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        Since we are in a post election situation, by constantly scape goating voters, you are doing one sided criticism.

        Trump helps genocide and he is a bad guy, Biden and Harris help genocide but the voters should have accepted it essentially.

        If we refuse to hold the dems accountable for their actions which directly led to Trump winning, they will plot the same course for the next election.

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          1028 days ago

          If we refuse to hold the dems accountable for their actions which directly led to Trump winning, they will plot the same course for the next election.

          Yes, that’s the idea. No centrist wants to stop the genocide. It’s not like it’s something centrists do want to stop, like raising the minimum wage or universal healthcare or cannabis legalization or anything they run on.

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          Am I? More people voted against Trump than for him. If the third-party voters accepted that they can’t change the rigged system by voting third-party, Harris would’ve won.

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            If the dems had catered to voters instead of kneeling in front of a foreign apartheid state and its genocide, Harris would have won.

            Politicians can choose what they represent and the platform they put forward. I don’t want to have to vote for genocide so democracy can live again, I want the dems to drop their pro-genocide stance. Blaming voters is the opposite of asking for change.

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            Be glad those third parties exist. Those people would have spite voted for Trump instead, not for Harris.

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              At least they’d be forced to own their complicity instead of hiding behind a pointless action.

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                1229 days ago

                At the moment of voting there was only one choice which had been complicit in genocide up to that point.

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                  Are you for real?

                  Trump repealed restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory. Netanyahu was so grateful, he named a settlement after him in occupied Golan Heights. He also said Israel needs to “finish the job” and stop recording their atrocities because they’re “losing the PR war.”

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                    29 days ago

                    What a shock that liberals care more about what Trump says than what Biden did. The Democrats fully supported Isreal “finishing the job,” but you only care about it when Trump says it.

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            The were too small a demographic to listen to, but they were so influential that they’re responsible for trump.

            Sounds like they’re kingmakers and maybe they should have been treated accordingly. But that will require belatedly abandoning support for genocide, so centrists never will.

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        2929 days ago

        Actually a huge number of people said it was fine that Harris supported Israel, as well as a huge number who engaged in heavy denialism about Harris’ support of genocide.

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        What we all said was there are only two candidates who could win the election

        Yeah, Joe Biden and Donald Trump, I remember.

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          A Democrat or a Republican. Welcome to the United States. Select one of the two or one will be selected for you.

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              It’s that type of flawless, disengaging thought that brought you the Trump administration. Twice. Maybe try something different to get the 90M eligible voters to show up?

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                Shocking idea but I do not give a shit about the Democrats, maybe they should be trying to appeal to voters rather than the other way around? Oh wait, they cant because as the saying goes your vote doesn’t matter unless you buy it in advance.

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                  -628 days ago

                  Nor do I. I did give a shit about preventing the election of a fascist dictator. Apparently that was not as important to you.

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                    If the Democrats wanted to win they should have learned that blaming voters for their losses will get them nowhere. Because its aways the voters fault. If they loose the voters did vote hard enough, if they win the voters didnt vote hard enough so they do nothing, and if they win an outright majority in both houses you better believe that people still didn’t vote hard enough because some party traitor will make sure nothing gets passed (or the Republicans will just filibuster).

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                Democrats moved too far to the right.

                The right didn’t buy it but the left did. Progressives and leftists tried to warn you but the party did what it wanted anyway, secure in the knowledge that they had plenty of people who will blame the voters if that’s what it takes to never listen to them.

                EDIT: typo

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        628 days ago

        If you never said that harris shouldn’t be supporting genocide, you never encountered it.

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        628 days ago

        I saw a ton of people that tried to say Kamala would be better without any actual evidence of that.

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          -528 days ago

          Do you think she would’ve upgraded the 5-ton bombs to 10-ton bombs, and provided bulldozers to turn the West Bank into a billionaire resort too?

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            1028 days ago

            According to recent reports stating that Biden never applied any pressure to israel, and considering she never made herself different than him on israel, I have no doubt if they asked she would have.