I (32m) started seeing prostitutes when I was 20 and have done it on and off up to my current age. I find the lack of sexual and emotional connection lures me into to seeing them even when I say I’m going to stop. Whenever I am doing decent financially I end up going back to seeing them. I try to be a spiritual person and read the bible and not lust over women but it can be a struggle and mental battle. Does anyone else have this same bad habit?

  • flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)
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    13 days ago

    Because God must use some criteria to assess if something is morally right or not, otherwise morality would be arbitrary (see the Euthyphro dilemma). These criteria can exist without God, therefore morality can exist without God.

    • Flax
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      13 days ago

      God has His own endorsed criteria. If there’s no God to endorse the criteria, the criteria holds no weight. Good action is good because it is loved by God.

      • flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)
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        13 days ago

        You’ve just moved some words around. God must have reasons for thinking something is good, otherwise goodness would be arbitrary. You can argue that god is only one who can know those reasons/criteria, but I don’t think there’s a good argument that these reasons/criteria can’t exist without them.

        • Flax
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          Then that’s kind of the whole “where did God come from” argument

          • flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)
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            No it’s not? I’m arguing that morality must be something separate from God. If the only thing that makes something morally right is that God wills it, then if God ever changes what they will, what is morally right will change.

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              But God cannot change as God is already perfect

              The Euthyphro dilemma is moreso about polytheistic religions. It doesn’t work with nor was it written about Monotheism.

              • flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)
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                12 days ago

                I didn’t say if God changed though, I said if God changed what they willed. From some quick Googling (I haven’t actually read the bible), this seems to happen in the bible (Jeremiah 26:13). God can change their actions without changing themself.

                The Euthyphro dilemma is moreso about polytheistic religions. It doesn’t work with nor was it written about Monotheism.

                2 millennia of Christian philosophy would disagree with you there.

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                  12 days ago

                  Jeremiah 26:13 ESV

                  Now therefore mend your ways and your deeds, and obey the voice of the Lord your God, and the Lord will relent of the disaster that he has pronounced against you.

                  God’s will isn’t changing here