For me AutoKey is absolutely essential to my workflow. I have tons of text expansions and shortcuts to “remap” keys. E.g., respectively, typing dAt expands into 2025-05-08, 13:47:40 CEST, and pressing alt + k simulates the arrow down key.
Secondly there’s XScreenSaver which has so many wonderful (mathematical) visualizations that it would be a damn shame if these eventually get lost as Wayland gets more adoption.
None of these have Wayland alternatives as far as I know. For text expansion there’s Espanso, but it doesn’t support keyboard shortcuts yet.
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Every time I build a new box or do an upgrade, I try selecting Plasma on Wayland from the login screen. Every time it doesn’t work, I select X11, and never think of it again for another six months to two years.
Must have been a long time since you built a box.
Two years, then the drive exploded a couple weeks ago and I rebuilt it just now. Doesn’t work out of the box, X11, does, so I’ve never looked into it.
I just need steam\proton\wine to support native wayland and then I’ll remove xwayland from my system, can’t wait
i’m on hyprland though
Absolutely none. On my setup everything runs fine either natively or with Xwayland.
Yeah, I think my sway config is around five years old now. The Wayland experience hasn’t been entirely without warts, but as someone who kind of just uses the desktop to drive a browser and a bunch of terminals, there’s not a whole lot of problems to run into either.
AwesomeWM, and xdotool.
That’s it. Oh and x-eyes of course
New hyprland patch can do pretty much all the xdotool stuff since they added a send key to window thing
There’s ydotool.
I find it’s not as reliable in targeting inputs, and you sometimes need to set the XDG_RUNTIME variable yourself.
wtypeis much better at this, but is limited to keystrokes
what do you use x-eyes for?
👀
https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/xeyes.1.html
Xeyes watches what you do and reports to the Boss.
I don’t think that was entirely serious…
You might be interested in river as a awesome replacement:
Appreciate the link, and I don’t mean to sound so ungrateful, but that extensive README contains everything except what exactly
riveris. Is it a desktop manager? A standalone compositor? What does it fix? What does it replace? etc.Edit: Oh, it’s a tiling window manager, and all WMs in wayland have to be compositors.
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Have you tried ydotools, which works on both Wayland and X?
XFCE, mostly.
The inability to roll windows up into just the title bar, or to get Firefox to place each of its windows on the same virtual desktop as before, are major annoyances. Otherwise, Wayland runs better than I expected.
RustDesk (remote desktop control) and Barriers (KVM-like server to control my laptop screen from my desktop just by moving mouse to that screen). Both of these are tightly integrated in my daily workflow and would be a hard loss.
There’s a modern fork of Barriers but I haven’t been able to get it working cross-platform yet. I know RustDesk is actively working to complete wayland support, but it’s not quite there yet.
What about Deskflow? Worked pretty well for me.
Nice! DeskFlow seems like exactly what I was looking for as my Barrier replacement. I have an annoyance with Wayland where it won’t remember my preference to allow mouse/kb sharing, but more importantly IT WORKS, and better yet it’s an active project still. THANK YOU!
I’ll check it out, thanks!
I use rustdesk with wayland, works for me for everything i need it to. As for barriers, i believe input-leap works with wayland.
RustDesk on Wayland can’t run headless, which I need (unless they fixed already and I just haven’t noticed yet - I know they’ve been working on it!)
Yeah, Input-leap is the Barriers fork I was referring to. I need it to work on all platforms though, and I wasn’t able to get it working on macOS. I keep checking periodically tho (usually in response to posts like these - I wanna move Wayland like everyone else!)
I see, yea still can’t do headless in rust desk. You’re right about that.
As for input-leap, yea, not too sure about mac, i’m a linux only guy at this point in time.
Does input-leap do what you need? I control my testing mac at work with input-leap
I think Rustdesk for me as well. My main computer is a Windows laptop, but I use a few Linux laptops around the house to control it and others with Rustdesk. Alt+Tab works on the remote system in Gnome Classic (I think that’s what it’s called - says X11) but on the other options it performs switches locally only. Tested on Debian and Fedora.
I need to force keepass and some other things to x11 mode so that autotype and window detection works.
Stumpwm. The most ergonomic tiling window manager I know, fantastic configurability like emacs.
autokey
I accomplish the same thing with compose sequences, and by binding a keyboard shortcut in my desktop to call a script with
wtype. It’s not a cross-compositor solution though, as you’d have to manually setup binds in each of them.I don’t see much hope for this one-to-one unfortunately.
Check out xremap https://github.com/xremap/xremap
ydotool iirc
Same camp as wtype, you have to bind something to exec it.
Talon voice.
Autokey.
Anydesk. (although rustdesk is probably going to replace that)
Talon voice though. I’ll need X11 for the rest of my life.
GPU screen recorder, the hotkeys dont work in Wayland
This one should be getting resolved soon! With the new global shortcut portal
Strange, they do for me on Plasma Wayland.
Depends on your desktop environment. Works on KDE.
RDP.
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RDP works on Wayland.
Not headless last I tried, unless that changed recently.
keepassxc’s autotype
also, nvidia
KeepassXC work fine on Wayland with xwayland
only with other x11 applications
There are still some quirks but it’s been generally fine for me with Nvidia, almost a year now.
i heard about that. sadly my gpu is so old the latest driver that supports it is the 470 driver
Hey, I’m in the same boat. Gigabyte GTX 670. Wayland was a sluggish mess, and same goes for nouveau with X11.
I bit the bullet after eight months of running Arch like this, and experimenting around with newer iGPUs in laptops, and bought a new radeon finally. Time to retire this ancient piece of tech.
670 is still better than nothing.
Hopefully it can find its way to someone else’s home on the cheap and still give them plenty of years of fun.
Well, you can hold onto that GPU for a little longer with X11. But it seems you’ll need an upgrade some time later. Though if you don’t game (aside from FOSS ones), Nouveau driver should do the job for your daily needs. However, it still needs time for Wayland.
the nouveau driver works fine except when it crashes for no clear reason after some hours of usage
Even on X11? I tried it on Wayland months ago to see its state and it was generally fine except gaming. Though the results still might depend on the card in use I guess.
Even on X11?
yup. i think it had something to do with video calls or screen sharing, which are essential at work
That makes sense. Nouveau isn’t mature for some use cases yet, even though they made a huge jump with NVK. Hardware upgrade might be closer than you think then.
Glxgears. :P I’m on wayland for a least 4 years
Hilarious. Is vkgears a possible replacement in your workflow?
