• Cris
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    Christ, premium light is still fucking 8 dollars a month and you don’t even get rid of ads. The greed is fucking astounding.

    I’ll stick to an adblocker, dickheads.

    • KingJalopy
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      Newpipe is all I have. I signed up for a couple creators patreon to support those I really like. Fuck Google. They are here for the investors bottom line not our shit. But people just want their shit and it perpetuates this behavior. My friend said he pays to support the creators he likes. He supports the giant corporation holding these creators ransom. Just send them money directly. Use new pipe or whatever. Quit supporting this shit and let the whole thing die until we realize there has to be a better way.

      • @[email protected]
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        171 month ago

        Why think of the consumer when you have practical monopoly on online video content distribution. If the creators are on youtube so will their audience and vice versa. Where will any of them go if you squeeze?

    • @[email protected]
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      591 month ago

      Firefox+uBlock Origin on the computer.

      ReVanced on my Android phone.

      SmartTubeNext on my Android TV.

      I haven’t seen a YouTube ad in years.

      • @[email protected]
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        171 month ago

        This is the way!!

        I even subscribed to youtube premium when it came bundled with music streaming as well. back then it was a good deal. They kept raising prices and making the end product worse. Now it just seems obnoxious.

      • Cethin
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        330 days ago

        As of yesterday YouTube is blocking videos for me. Until that’s solved, I’m just not watching YouTube. Not a big loss.

        • Yeather
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          429 days ago

          This happens from time to time. Open a private window and sign in, or wait a couple of hours for the prompt to reset. Ublock will update in a week or so to get rid of the prompts until the next time YouTube updates the detection software.

      • @[email protected]
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        229 days ago

        In case anyone is reading this and using an iPhone, Orion is the only iOS browser afaik to currently support uBlock Origin. I haven’t had a single ad since discovering that. Picture in Picture mode works too, as long as you go full screen with the video before swiping home. Hope this helps someone.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’ve gotten some home page ads on revanced lately, but they’ll surely be patched out soon again

    • @[email protected]
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      I truly, truly don’t get it.

      Ublock Origin + Firefox still works.

      Works just fine.

      Been that way for over a decade.

      Yes, if you’re more privacy concerned (and there are good reasons to be) you can use some other browser, something like NewPipe, or Invidious…

      But I just don’t get why any normie, ever, goes for YT Premium…

      • @[email protected]
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        Ublock Origin + Firefox

        YouTube started detecting and complaining about that yesterday (for me).

        • @[email protected]
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          It complained about it for me as well.

          And then kept working.

          I am currently crippled and basically just do PT, shitpost on lemmy, and watch youtube… all day long.

          If it was gonna block me after 3 videos, it missed it by about 100.

    • Avid Amoeba
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      191 month ago

      There’s one in the article comments. Talks about getting the material “dishonestly” and violating the TOS.

  • @[email protected]
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    Genuinely though, the point of YouTube premium is to get rid of the ads…

    We seem to be making cable TV again where you pay a premium for the privilege of being advertised to

    • Buelldozer
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      YT Premium has no ads. YT Lite does, just fewer of them (supposedly).

      • @[email protected]
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        YouTube Premium Lite is Premium, it’s in the name. I presume the OP is saying the only reason people buy Premium is to be rid of ads, therefore Lite is pointless.

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    Or, and hear me out: just install a browser plugin and forget ads exist.

    I hesitate to name extensions names, but I’ve literally never seen an ad on YouTube.

    These companies don’t respect us, so I don’t feel the need to respect them by allowing them to force their meaningless bullshit down my throat.

    I don’t use it that much, but you better believe if I go to YouTube to watch a video, that video is the only thing I’m watching.

    • asudox
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      This ain’t reddit. You can freely name extension names here.

      uBlock Origin

      • @[email protected]
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        Oh I know, I’ve been here for years despite the age of my account. I just migrated from lemm.ee

        I tend not to like to name these types of extensions because more exposure puts them at risk, and they’re super easy to find anyway.

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          It’s better to name known safe options rather than leave it up to user search. The entities that work against extensions like uBO are already well aware of their existence, so hiding their names has no benefit.

          Case in point - uBlock and uBlock Origin are not the same, with the former being a bastardised version that does ‘acceptable ads’. There are plenty of other poor blocking options out there for the unsuspecting to stumble into besides that.

          Personal setup is Librewolf/uBO on the client and pfBlockerNG/Snort for network level blocking/additional security layer.

          And welcome to .zip :) Hope you enjoy the new home!

        • Midnight Wolf
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          exposure puts them at risk

          they’re super easy to find

          that one meme with the dude surrounded by question marks

          E: or that one of Trump and another dude in chairs talking about a piece of paper

        • asudox
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          uBlock is already pretty much known as the best adblocker in the internet. Not sure what more exposure it could get.

    • snooggums
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      Firefox + ublock origin + sponsorblock and I haven’t seen an ad on youtube in all the years since I started that combo.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yesterday evening I got a pop-up that I should disable ublock from youtube. Refreshing page got rid of that but apparently it’s time for me to run some updates on this thing. I’ve seen that few times, google changes something and as I’m a bit lazy to run updates my system sometimes gives the pop up.

    • @[email protected]
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      81 month ago

      There are people out there Who don’t watch YouTube on their PC. Can’t install a browser plugin on my TV.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        Well, you shouldn’t watch smart tv anyway. Shut off that slop and use your tv as a dumb tv through a computer. The other way is just asking to be exploited.

        • @[email protected]
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          That way I won’t get DolbyVision metadata though and getting surround sound workin is a chore, also. Not to speak about comfortable control from my couch without a keyboard/mouse.

          Instead, I use an appleTV. It’s ad free, supports all streaming services I need (including my jellyfin) and almost all common video, audio and HDR formats. Even supports VPNs for getting around geofencing.

          Besides the initial purchase price (which is steep but there aren’t many comparable devices), not having adblock working in YouTube is really the only actual downside. And for that a few friends and I share a YT family subscription. Has the benefit of my views actually paying the creators for the content they provide me and us not having to pay the ridiculous amounts of solo subscriptions.

          Would never use the integrated SmartTV feature of the vast majority of TV manufacturers (LG used to be so good before they put ads everywhere). My TV hasn’t seen an Internet connection even once.

    • @[email protected]
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      They’re trying to block adblockers again, it seems. I got the “adblockers are not allowed” popup again recently.

  • @[email protected]
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    Cable TV providers in the 70s: “No commercials when you pay for our services!”

    Cable TV providers in the early 80s: “Ok, we actually meant no commercials on premium channels, but local channels will, and it’s not our fault.”

    Cable TV providers in the late 80s: “Fine. What we meant was no commercials on movie channels.”

    Cable TV providers in the 90s: “Uhm, so only on-demand shows will be commercial free.”

  • @[email protected]
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    Adblock/revanced are working. Google’s ad revenue is getting squeezed and so they need to shoehorn more ads everywhere to get the same revenue levels, since so many people never see the ads.

    Keep using them. You’re making business really difficult for scummy Google.

    • cartoon meme dog
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      Adblock, maybe a noticeable fraction on desktop, but Revanced users are within a rounding error of the total users, surely?

      I feel like both populations are now dwarfed by the numbers watching YT on their TV’s built-in apps, which throw demented amounts of ads at you.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’m dating this person and we were watching YT and she didn’t have any ad blocker up and I was fucking blown away

      • @[email protected]
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        Revanced users are within a rounding error of the total users, surely?

        Some of us use NewPipe. 🤷‍♂️

      • @[email protected]
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        The $ revenue share to creators per video view has dropped, even though the percentage of Google’s ad revenue shared with the creator has remained the same. So to me this means Google is earning less per video view. (That could also be just a result of the ad market in general collapsing, eg advertisers just pay less)

        Also, Google has added new requirements to get the video share. You need to post new videos at a regular cadence, or they kick you out–even if your old videos are still getting views. (began being enforced in 2023, I think). Its another way they can keep their revenue numbers looking OK by cutting a cost associated with older videos.

        Google has also escalated their efforts to make it more difficult to view content without also viewing the ads.

        So maybe its wishful thinking, but I think they are feeling the squeeze.

        Unfortunately unlike the reddit or twitter situations its significantly harder to accumulate enough fresh video content to attract the views necessary to get the ball rolling and make a shift away from YouTube.

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    Edit: Guys. I think a lot of you missed where I said EASIEST METHODS.

    Easiest methods to ditch Youtube ads:

    • PC: Firefox + uBlock Origin
    • Mac, option 1: Safari + AdGuard
    • Mac, option 2: Firefox + uBlock Origin
    • Android, option 1: Youtube ReVanced (FYI: ALL Play Store listings for this are fake; the official site is revanced.app and is the only place to get it)
    • Android, option 2: Firefox Mobile + uBlock Origin
    • iPhone/iPad: Safari + AdGuard

    For those who may have heard about Pi-hole and are wondering why it’s not on this list: PI-HOLE DOES NOT BLOCK YOUTUBE ADS. IT NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL.

    • @[email protected]
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      Android, option 3 (Better): newpipe from fdroid. 0% algorithmic feed, exclusively show who you’re following, in chronological order

    • Luffy
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      Youtube ReVanced

      Revanced still Relies on G services

      Also, Theres this very unknown app Called Freetube for all plattforms or newpipe for Android

      • Lka1988
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        Revanced uses microG, which is optional. I also mentioned that these were the easiest methods. But, you’re absolutely right in that there are plenty of other methods to choose from.

      • @[email protected]
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        I tried Freetube for a while, but it just never works. An actual coin flip each day whether or not anything would load at all. I got so tired of it I just went back to Youtube, as I’ve only ever seen one single ad in my entire time using uBlock Origin on Librewolf.

        • @[email protected]
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          Google is constantly making changes that break it, the developers fix them quickly… but if your distro doesn’t keep the newest version in their repo then you’d have to install it from their git repo.

          Generally they have a patch for any breaking changes within the day.

        • @[email protected]
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          I use it consistently with few issues. Once in a while, usually on Thursdays (when it seems YT rolls out changes), something breaks, but the devs are quick to fix it. The last issue I experienced was when YT transitioned to SABR, and it was out for a day or two before they had things working again. I am at least perfectly capable of going without for a day once every two months.

          It’s also one of the projects I’ve used to learn more about how fixes are worked on in FOSS. I will typically run nightly builds also - I find it pretty cool to follow an issue and once they push a fix I can instantly grab that fresh build without waiting for it to be packaged.

        • @[email protected]
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          If you want to give it a try again, get mpv and yt-dlp installed in your system then activate from Freetube settings the external player button, which you’ll be able to click from search or from a vid page

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      Yeah, this will work for a while but I think the days have gotta be numbered.

      Best long term solution? Leave YouTube.

      I guess in the meantime: if on PC grab the freetube flatpak. Really decent client, anonymous and create subscriptions without actually subscribing.

    • @[email protected]
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      Can I block youtube ads with a transparent proxy like squid ? What about a self-hosted youtube auto-downloading queue list ? I’m fine with .mp4 files !

      • Lka1988
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        Can I block youtube ads with a transparent proxy like squid ?

        I haven’t tried that, so I’m not entirely sure. I just focused on the easy methods that most people will gravitate towards.

        Try it and let us know what you find!

        What about a self-hosted youtube auto-downloading queue list ? I’m fine with .mp4 files !

        Sounds like yt-dlp. Lots of people use that to get around ads, and also for data hoarding.

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        I think it is extremely hard because they are served from the same servers (technically, ads are YouTube videos)

        And if the logic on the client isn’t removed, it will hang waiting for the ad

        • @[email protected]
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          I’m curious for something more sophisticated that dns blocks. Something that modifies the content on the fly like, ublock, dark reader and sponsorblock.

    • @[email protected]
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      I use IgeBlock on Android. It has the banner ads, but not the video ads, so it’s pretty good if you don’t wanna deal with Revanced

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        uBlock on mobile Firefox gets rid of all the ads though.

        That, and Revanced isn’t difficult to set up, you don’t even need root:

        1. Disable stock youtube app
        2. Download Revanced manager
        3. Grab the recommended .apk version of YouTube from APKMirror
        4. Patch it with Revanced manager
        5. Install it

        And you’re done. Update once every 6-12 months or so.

    • Viirax
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      No Grayjay? Been using that almost exclusively since they released the desktop version. Had to log out and back in with my (new, basically blank) YT account a few times after updates, and there are very rare cases of certain videos not wanting to load, but overall it’s been working well so far.

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      My ublock origin was having issues today and I had to scale back some of the stuff being blocked.

      • @[email protected]
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        They must be making extra effort lately. I got the “Ad blockers are prohibited” popup twice today on two systems. One Linux and one windows. Librewolf, UO and SB on both.

        Was able to close popup and move on.

        • @[email protected]
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          Yup I think that’s it. I got a “you have playback issues?” popup today. Also it takes longer to load.

          Maybe YouTube will push me away, but for now it’s too convenient.

        • @[email protected]
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          My uBlock Origin has been working fine on my Linux desktop running Firefox.

          uBlock Origin Lite on my Chromebook, on the other hand, has gotten the “Ad blockers are prohibited” popup a couple of times.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yeah, horrible innit? When I used to go to the cinema as a kid in the 70s and 80s, you’d get maybe ten minutes of trailers before your film. And I never minded that, I don’t dislike watching trailers. These days, totally different. Last time I went to the cinema there was maybe half an hour of ads. Some trailers, but mostly just advertisements for crap.

        It is so fuckin disrespectful to their customers. If I wanted to see all that bullshit, I could have stayed home and watched it on TV. Except I don’t watch TV because the experience is so poor - largely because of ads.

        I understand that cinemas have been struggling ever since covid, even before, and I understand that advertising revenue pays the bills. But cinema isn’t cheap, for me it’s an occasional treat when there’s something I really wanna see on the big screen. I do not want to spend that much money and get treated like a fuckin farm animal being fed crap. Wankers.

        I can’t be alone in feeling this way, who wants to pay to see ads? Who thinks that sounds like a great evening out? It ruins the experience, and it’s insulting, by the time the movie starts I’m angry. I’d rather pay a bit more and just have a couple of trailers.

        I recently went to a small autonomous cinema with a mate and saw Mulholland Drive. Great experience, comfy seats, could bring in drinks from the bar, no fuckin ads. But for new films there aren’t many options. So I don’t often go to the cinema.

        Sorry for this long and bitter diatribe! You just hit on something that really pisses me off too.

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          I’ve started to go 15-20 minutes late. I’ve never missed a minute of movie, but I’ve skipped so many ads.

          • @[email protected]
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            That happened to me once. I think it was I Heart Huckabees. It started and people were so confused. I half think David O Russel asked them to do it to throw people off.

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        I haven’t gone to a movie in like… 10 years probably. Ha…

  • @[email protected]
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    Damn, you pay and still get ads? Does that count as findom? Like it feels very cucky, doesn’t it?

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      It’s like cable TV, pay $100+/mo just to watch ads

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      Also starting to spread on the cheapest plans of streaming services like Prime and Netflix.

  • @[email protected]
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    I think I’m understanding the playbook here.

    Eventually YouTube will cost 89.99 a month and also be full of ads.

    Then they will be disrupted by some startup company that will have to fight uphill for search and bandwidth access through Google’s monopolistic front door.

    Years later a court case will be decided and the new guy will be up and running a free service with a few ads or 1.99 a month for no ads!

    And then we get to go through it all again.

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      There is no end to the greed of those with millions and especially billions and they aren’t content to just keep running a profitable business, they have to get all the money.

      This is just the history of humanity and finances forever, the one saving grace in all this is every big business gets complacent in its money making and seeks ever increasing profit (and becomes management heavy) until a young upstart finds a way to do it a lot better and cheaper and disrupts the market. Google has become the big lumbering unable to change organisation seeking maximum profit now, its become IBM.