Really? All I get is ‘full scale retard’ energy.

Yes I do and to my delight I’ ve yet to encounter a situation where I can’t use the editor I prefer anyway. Joy.

Have you heard about Android?

Thank you, exactly what I was gonna say. How many teams have elite security experts? That number is not 0 but very close. That is fantastic news and I’m 100% going to use that tool when it comes out. It being less almighty actually makes it easier to release and actually helps improving security in practice, as otherwise it might have been heavily restricted or not open to the public at all.

I hate it to break it to you, but buddy, you are the neighbours that are crazy unstable. Your people shoot each other in the face constantly.

And Trump absolutely does have access to missiles he very well might be pointing at your ass at some point.

It’s hilarious that there are people from the US who would think that you’re serious.

Just recently I followed a discussion where multiple Americans thought ‘we are the champions’ is an American song and obviously about America.

Ask chatgpt what the best way to go about it would be. I’m sure it’ll save you a ton of time!

Lol, you’re funny. Nobody is calling anybody a nazi here. Only people outing themselves.

Let me spell it out for you again: being called a nazi is not some common experience people make. In general, people don’t feel like this is some huge problem that needs a broad discussion.

And of course I’m sure as fuck not engaging in your straw man discussions, haha. ‘Uhhh, don’t call people something they’re not, uhhh’. We’re not kindergarten children.

It’s funny to see you desperately trying to justify why the fuck you are so triggered by this to such an extent.

Lol. No it doesn’t.

Here is what it literally says:

1. Post ‘fuck nazis’.
2. Watch for the ‘don’t call people you disagree with nazis!’ comments.
3. You found the nazis.

Nowhere does it tell you to call out people. The second point tells you to watch for specific kind of comments. That’s 100% passive.

You know, exactly those kind of comments you provided.

Haha, you still don’t get it.

So let me explain it to you, real slow and simple.

The meme instructs you to post ‘fuck nazis’ and wait for reactions. There is no engaging besides that one statement. No other context. No discussion. Just this two words.

There is absolutely no reason to react to ‘fuck nazis’ with some deep philosophical discussion on how it might be problematic to call people nazis.

This might sound wild to you, so believe it or not, but next to nobody on the planet is being called a nazi. That’s not an experience the average person makes.

So it’s very telling when you actually are triggered. You are forcing a discussion on us nobody asked for.

It’s so painfully obvious.

It’s so funny how you’re using so many words, going out of your way spreading what you think is some ultra deep next level wisdom - just to somehow justify why it’s ok to be triggered by ‘fuck nazis’.

Just so you know, a normal person see this, shrugs and is already on their way to the next thing on their mind. You don’t have to have a political agenda to not be triggered by this.

You’re so simple minded that you don’t notice how you’re hooked by this primitive mind trick.

And that you want to sound like some intellectual on top of that is just so hilarious.

There is no ‘other part’.

The meme literally is about making this one statement and waiting for people to be offended.

There is no other statement here.

Anything besides this is happening in your head. That’s why it’s working.

It’s so funny how good this works.

I’ve never noticed until now that Zuckerberg looks like a giraffe.

It is shaping up very nicely! One more nitpick: cloud that button say something like ‘Join Lemmy (instance name)’?

So that any fool understands what it does. Join instance name has the potential to confuse some people, because they don’t know what joining instance name means - especially if some instance is chosen which name is more on the cryptic site.

But anyway, very nice!

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Ok so I think it would be best to have two ways: One really completely foolproof way, where the user does not need to know a single thing about the technologies involved. 0 upfront homework for the user.

And then a second way for users willing to take the time to do a ‘manual setup’.

I created an AI slop clickable mockup real quick as it’s easier to bring the idea across than describing it with lots of words. This only covers the foolproof way.

https://jsfiddle.net/da9m4nuq/

The main idea being to remove all possible friction for users who are the opposite of tech savvy - which imo are the absolute majority of all users.

The tricky part is preselecting a server for them. This will probably need a more or less manually curated list of servers which most people will be okay with - so no extreme opinions, not technical, big enough so they don’t seem empty on first sight. Done in such a way that the people get more or less equally distributed, so we don’t create one centralized instance.

But I think it is crucial to remove any friction for the users. Don’t let them do homework before they even know what Lemmy is and if it’s worth it at all.

Well, you are technically correct. That would’ve made it easier for me. But I see a few problems with that:

How are you gonna make sure people start doing this?

And even more important: If people start doing this, it might actually harm the network IMHO.

I personally knew that something like Lemmy exists at all because I saw multiple people on Reddit recommending it as an alternative to Reddit. Often enough that I was able to remember this after some time.

Now if people recommended programming.dev in one sub, literature.cafe in another and discuss.online in a third - there is no way I would’ve remembered any of it and most likely wouldn’t know that it belongs to the same network. Looking at them individually emphasizes the feeling that those are some ultra niche little sites with hardly any users on them.

Just my gut feeling, anyway.

Neat.

I’m a reddit user and that’s also where I first heard about lemmy the first time.

Yesterday I decided to give it a try, current events pushed me away from everything American and so I thought it was about time.

I searched for something like ‘lemmy getting started’ and landed on this site: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/01-getting-started.html

So the first greeting is a wall of text. After I read through it, I found myself here: https://join-lemmy.org/instances

Now I got a bunch of options with no real way to evaluate what’s what. I spent some time there looking through the options and didn’t really know what to choose and what the impact would be. I used a search engine again to look for some opinions about the biggest ones which lead me nowhere, mostly.

So I kinda gave up and selected programming.dev because that’s close enough to what I do professionally. I clicked on join and was presented with this https://programming.dev/signup

So I don’t know if that differs from instance to instance, but you need a moment to process this. The first few fields are obvious but then it starts to get a little weird. Instead of a checkbox or even implicit accepting of TOS and privacy policy (by registering here you agree to…) you have to take or copy paste that exact sentence into that answer box with a preview button(?) and then fill in the captcha. After that you are told that your registration needs to be approved manually and that there is no notification about that so you have to manually check from time to time whether your are able to login or not.

But it didn’t end here. Because I found that the webui wasn’t that great on mobile, I wanted an Android app. So I ended up here: https://join-lemmy.org/apps

And yet again was confronted with a bunch options I somehow had to evaluate. I’m still in the process finding an app I really like.

Now I know this is no rocket science, and having options is a good thing usually.

But still considering the average usually not tech savvy user, all of that is too much by quite a bit. That’s overwhelming for the majority of people.

This whole thing needs to be a 10 second streamlined process. There should be one button to get you started. The instance selection site tells you: ‘You can access all content in the lemmyverse from any server, so it doesn’t matter which one you choose.’

So if that’s the case, why bother the user with it? I admit I know jack shit about the fediverse, but if I were to design such a thing, I’d separate the IdP (identity provider) from the service/content providers. Have a couple of them redundantly, hosted by different parties so one entity can not shut down everything. Let the user register once, replicate that identity across the IdPs and let some interest selection wizard determine which content instances the use should be added to.

I know that’s a big architecture change and will never happen. So maybe have that one obvious registration routine for a user and choose a first instance for the user based on interests or randomly (from a curated list to prevent users landing on some extreme instances) if the user can not be bothered to fill in their interests.

Have one default app which is good and recommended that. Let the app have sensible defaults (like the sorting thing), present most popular content first to hook the user.

Let the user look for alternatives later if they want to do that.

Don’t let the user do all the homework upfront before they even know whether they even care and if it’s worth the effort. Most people simply won’t do it.

PS. Nope I do not know about ‘Piefed’. I’ll check it out later. It wasn’t mentioned on all that sites that I looked at and that’s part of the problem.

That’s just my 2 cents.