• davel [he/him]@lemmy.mlEnglish
    573·
    25 天前

    You dummy, the reason people don’t commit suicide in aUThOriTAiaN StAtEs is because the government would murder them for it.

  • ZeroHora@lemmy.mlEnglish
    422·
    25 天前

    One of those posts where people who know nothing but have opinions they must speak come together to enlighten the poor tankies. Can we at least drop the white saviour mentality this time guys?

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
    401·
    25 天前

    China is just bribing people to continue living by providing material improvements to their quality of life. That’s cheating 😤

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
        17·
        25 天前

        I’m afraid my brain is just too wrinkly to allow facts and evidence to just slide off it and just imagine that reality is whatever I feel like based on absolutely nothing, like you can.

  • sqeezy@lemmy.ml
    14·
    25 天前

    It would be great to have the complete unit of measure displayed here. It’s suicides per 100k capita. Does not change the relative proportions, but is needed for the full picture.

  • pleiades@lemmy.ml
    71·
    25 天前

    Genuine question, is North Korea considered a monarchy (or monarcho-socialist), considering the Kim family has ruled it uncontested for generations? I know that a lot of stuff you read about North Korea in mainstream news is misinformation/propaganda so I’m curious

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
      161·
      25 天前

      No, every political position held by members of the Kim family is open to anyone else. They don’t have a competition based electoral system, and instead do consensus building before approval voting.

      • Narri N. (they/them)@lemmy.ml
        151·
        25 天前

        source: cryptic symbolism in my dreams

        but seriously: are the bougies paying you a commission to go around spewing bullshit, or you just enjoy running your mouth about places you know less than nothing about?

        • Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          311·
          24 天前

          No I’ve read extensively about how the DPRK works. I stand by what I said before I had the KGB man coming around to bash it with a heavy object.

          And before you all start screeching lib I actually think China is leading the world currently and while a bit on the authoritarian side for my taste is clearly pioneering a superior system to the west in general.

  • Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
    25·
    23 天前

    Whenever I see one of these threads, I go inside. “Removed by Mod”. 90% of the time, based on the replies and comments around it, it looks like the removed comment just said some dumb shit or was heavily disagreed with.

    Why are we removing people we disagree with from the discussion? There are like eight people were had all their comments stripped from this thread. WTF is going on?

    • EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
      131·
      23 天前

      Removing racism and chauvinistic shit is a good thing. This isn’t a debate class.

    • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
      12·
      23 天前

      After a while you get tired of reading “Chinese bot, Russian orc, wumao CCP shill, everyone is North Korea is dead, communists killed everyone on earth, Hamas is terrorists, Iran killed eighty trillion people in 3 days, you are a communist because you are mentally defective, vote blue no matter who.”

      • Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
        4·
        23 天前

        You know what, that’s fair. Its just so often! I sometimes forget that Lemmy is fringe and attracts all kinds of people, and not all of them are polite.

    • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
      8·
      23 天前

      Depends on which instance is doing the removing but around here it’s usually just racism and orientalism getting removed on this kind of post.

    • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
      92·
      23 天前

      You have been indoctrinated with the attitude that everyone’s opinion is equal and fools must be suffered. This is a community, not a street corner.

      • Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
        2·
        23 天前

        Well yes, that is how a democracy works. If someone says something stupid, publicly, they get it kicked right back up their ass. I’d rather participate in kicking the stupid back up a person’s ass than wade through pages of a one-way conversation. Maybe that’s just me.

          • Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
            11·
            21 天前

            Who are common people of the [email protected] state? Everyone here who is engaging in the community, and that is how public online forums work. “A community” is a broad categorization and does not have a standard structure of organization or common practices. “Public Online Forum” does in fact have a standard set of practices and organization, with precedent set since the 90s. That precedent is that moderators and admins get to choose who gets to participate, thus my original comment.

            Any other weirdo accusations or loaded questions you’d like to spitball?

            • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
              2·
              21 天前

              Any other weirdo accusations or loaded questions you’d like to spitball?

              I haven’t even read the main paragraph here but I will tell you right off that the derangement on display here is that which you brought yourself.

              Go ahead and await my reply for I logged on kinda on a whim and wasn’t expecting an epic showdown of words (it is after work and I do not work tomorrow and I am drunk)

  • Ramsesder13te@feddit.org
    415·
    24 天前

    To be fair none of these countries is socialist or even communist. And we hardly have accurate statistics about north Korea. Not that I disagree with the underlying point.

      • Ramsesder13te@feddit.org
        27·
        23 天前

        I did but i would be genuinely interested what you mean. Maybe I should have frased it as genuinely socialist or fully socialist I admit that.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
          11·
          23 天前

          Socialism is a transitional state between capitalism and communism, where the working class holds power in society but existing social relations have not been abolished. This is precisely what you have in China and DPRK. Both are genuinely socialist.

          • Ramsesder13te@feddit.org
            12·
            23 天前

            I think its not entirely false but more complicated. But this discussion is quite old. As I said i don’t disagree wit the underlying Point if yours.

    • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
      11·
      23 天前

      Both countries are run by ML parties following revolution and would therefore be designated both socialist and communist based on like 100 years of precedent.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        10·
        23 天前

        The WPK is Kimilsungist-Kimjongilist, technically, though ML is accepted as the basis of Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism, just with the juche idea added on top.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
      9·
      23 天前

      Both China and the DPRK are socialist countries. Public ownership is the principal aspect of their economies, and the working classes control the state.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
          12·
          23 天前

          Doubt all you like, but both the WPK and CPC are overwhelmingly proletarian parties in states where the commanding heights and backbone of the economy are publicly owned at a minimum.

          • Uli@sopuli.xyz
            14·
            23 天前

            Public ownership + a proletarian ruling party ≠ the working class controls the state.

            State ownership is not automatically worker control. Even if a ruling party genuinely represents the working class, that does not by itself establish that ordinary workers possess meaningful power over the state or over the party leadership.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
              2·
              20 天前

              You’re drawing a hard line within a class, which is more of an obfuscation of class analysis than a coherence towards it. Further, yes, both the WPK and CPC do engage with and are representative of the broader working classes.