I’ve been banned on bluesky because I choose to follow a curated group people’s accounts (I don’t remember what it was called that someone shares a bunch of people where you can choose to follow all with one click) about books which had over 100 people in it. Never went back…
could be because dont allow post edits or dislikes
I tried Bluesky. I noticed two overwhelming trends that led to my hasty departure:
Wishful thinking left-wing politics. Encouraging people to pretend like how things ought to be is how things are, and to act accordingly. This is lazy and disastrous thinking, both because it overlooks the real systemic change that needs to happen to get to where you want to be. Though, in fairness, there is quite a bit of this on Lemmy too.
Extremely popular poster who spent their entire careers making the Trump presidency a certainly trying to back pedal on Trump specifically. No mention of their awful ideas they still keep and spread that lead to such an outcome. Lots of thumbs up and people saying “see, they get it” while also not connecting the dots, as if Project 2025 fell from the sky and wasn’t the product of decades of effort.
It’s an idiot convention.
Amen.
liberal/left can’t seen to understand why they keep losing… but then makes no legit effort to like have a actionable plan for any of their political goals.
And if you suggest such actions/plan/pragmatic thinking, you’re basically voted off the liberal ‘happy think only’ island.
I’ve been left-wing I feel like for 25 years, but the entire time I left the politics was moving away from me. As much as the right parodies the left as being elitist and out of touch and delusional… it’s like the left now actively embraces that vision of themselves and actively pursues it.
I find it rather strange you say this. Bluesky was on the receiving end of a major artist exodus from Twatter. With them came all the progressive ideals that they’re known for. A lot of gay, trans, and otherwise queer individuals who are either artists themselves or follow artists they feel safe with. Certainly not the kind of people who are satisfied with the status quo.
Beyond that, the fact that Bsky came up out of nowhere and ate Mastodon’s lunch around that time just reeks of hostility to me.
I just removed the Discover feed and stick to For You or Mutuals. Much more pleasant experience.
Bluesky is great because you can make your own algo or go with one that isn’t meant to keep you on the platform forever.
Mastodon is still my favorite, though.
That being said: I hardly use either, these days. I pop on, check statuses for people I care about, then I’m off. I don’t engage in banter or get into arguments. It’s way better than the other social platforms for this reason. …but it won’t get that same terminally online user base because it doesn’t seem coded to do that, thankfully.
Mastodon.
💪😎✌️
They keep banning japanese artists, let that app rot.
First ive heard that, any idea why?
Underaged looking gooner characters. Not a big loss if you ask me.
I’m just don’t really find the Twitter experience to be all that much use. I was never a big Twitter user anyway.
My town has a bulletin board posted adjacent to the sidewalk near the post office. It’s labeled “The Town Cryer” and fliers for local events, businesses etc. get posted there.
That is what I see the Twitter/microblog format as useful for. It’s for stand up comics and musical acts to post “come see us LIVE at the Somewhere Dome in Citytown This Saturday a 8/7c.” Or for ISPs to post “Service interruption in the Carolinas, repairs underway, expect service to resume at 9 pm.”
Other than that and it’s just All Old Men Yell At Cloud.
I’ve actually seen quite a few people and organizations moving back to Twitter. While these are just a few anecdotes, I suspects there’s a trend. I can’t explain it.
There is no functional difference between Bluesky and Twtitter. At least Mastodon is decentralized
Something that clearly doesn’t resonate with mainstream social media users at all.
bluesky sucks and has limited reach.
twitter is far more integrated and popular.
people want to reach people, they have to use the broadest platforms.
I have deleted my twitter account since elon bought it. How integrated has it been in my life that I havent noticed? What does it actually integrate with?
twitter is far more integrated and popular with fash.
I’m sorry, but isn’t it Xitter now?
it’s twitter. always has been, always will be.
I just treat it like the X close this window button anymore.
That is crazy I’m not going back to twitter.
Yes, go forward to Mastodon.
Once you know the right way out in Federated servers, there is no need to turn back to the next big corp
I tried Bluesky before I found Lemmy. I really wanted to like it but after a few months I decided it wasn’t for me. It’s got a chicken-or-egg problem and you need to bring your own fanbase if want to have any interaction.
I never liked Twitter and don’t feel it’s a particularly good model for actual socializing. I think it was created back when people were still hacking together ideas, it sort of worked, and it hasn’t changed much since.
It’s great for disseminating stuff, terrible at creating space for discussion.
The founders seem like a bunch of young ultra-capitalists who sensed an opening in the market and are just shooting their shot. The app reflects this in subtle ways.
I never really participated in Twitter, actively deleted my X account when it was created for me.
I did try a little on Bluesky, but felt like the whole thing was a goad to get you to self-promote. If you don’t say popular things, nobody will read anything you say kind of thing. Anytime I would post I felt myself sub-consciously gauging “what’s this going to do for/to my visibility profile, will I gain or lose followers?” F that. I have better things to do with my life than worry about people I don’t know adding me to their circle or putting my account on block lists.
Yeah I just can’t really get into any of the twitter like platforms.
The big problem is it’s really hard to have a conversation you can reply to someone and they can reply to you but the UI does not lend itself well to having a multi-person conversation, so at the moment you try and involve more than two people it just becomes a mess.
Plus I cannot stand with the fact that when somebody quotes a comment their response is placed above the original quote. Meaning I always read them out of order and don’t understand it until I remember that I need to read it bottom to top and now it makes sense.
Yeah. I also think it’s quite a bad platform for sharing ideas and discussing them, when compared to the reddit/lemmy model. As you mention, there’s no real threading of usefulness, and the posts have to be too short to really share a complex idea. And even if you do share ideas, it is unlikely to reach people who are interested in these ideas, unless you stick to a single topic for your posts. And that means you also can’t find ideas that interest you as easily. Generally you get a hodgepodge of stuff, some of which is interesting, but much of which isn’t.
These platforms have always seemed to be a vanity thing of who can garner the most likes and make viral quips but that actually most people are constantly posting and doing very little interacting with the content of others. It’s a social network for narcissists rather than those interested in ideas IMO.
It struck me that the only way to have “real” idea exchange was to use the Bluesky / Twitter posts as pointers to other content - which pretty seriously hampers the whole back-and-forth aspect of a discussion.
Well said. It’s almost as bad as YouTube. At least twitter sort of has nesting (wherein yt doesn’t), but it’s still just about impossible to comprehend when 3 or more people are conversing.
This might be a bit of a hot take but I do visit Bluesky more than Lemmy, there’s more activity there & it’s less of an echo chamber, Bluesky still is a bit of an echo chamber I guess but not as much Lemmy can be, also some of the niches I like aren’t on Lemmy. I do hope Lemmy gets more users & Activity, it’d be a bit more comfortable to use.
it’s less of an echo chamber
Just different echoes.
I gave Bluesky a shot and didn’t really like it. This might have to do with how I never liked Twitter before or after the rebranding.
I do think the branding is way better than mastodon though.
Personally I just wished the official apps sucked less, at least I have Phanpy though.
Xitter is loosing users too. So where are people going? Threads?
Or is the format becoming less relevant?
or just bots shutting off
»TikTok« aka vertical short video. Even Loops is growing! - But yes, also Threads, Reddit etc.
I’ve heard so many stories like mine of people like me getting permanently banned from Reddit. It’s a real bummer bc I truly enjoyed being able to find a wide range of discourse. I’m surprised/disappointed I haven’t figured out a long term workaround yet.
getting purged early last year and trying to get new accounts was extremely difficult they seem to have laid off on the intese purges. someone confirmed that you can make another acc after a while(you would be careful not to use the same browser ,ip)
It’s called Lemmy. Check it out. 🤪
I keep forgetting vluesky exists…
The brutal truth of social networks: people don’t stay for protocols, decentralization, or good intentions. They stay because everyone else is there. Building better infrastructure is impressive. Building a habit people refuse to leave is harder.
Bluesky amplified their problems by retaining old Twitter’s dogshit discoverability/search. If you have fewer users, it’s important to make those users count, yet somehow it feels even harder to search than other social networks
Everyone I know who’s tried it tells me that big corporate brands and their slop / astroturfed content is why Bluesky is less enjoyable. Haven’t myself, as I’m perfectly content on Mastodon and Lemmy, so I understand that’s anecdotal.
I use Bluesky all the time, and I barely ever see corporate brand stuff.
My actual gripe about Bluesky is that somehow they haven’t dropped an iPad app after four years. Or at the very least fixed issues with their iPhone app while using an iPad.
Many apps seem to have that problem on the iPad. It wasn’t until last year that Instagram was properly sized for it, as an example.
bsky is just another VC-funded corpo platform. The initial wave of Libs who moved over gave it some gas, but ultimately, it’s just another toxic, bland platform like all the others.
I have found Bluesky to be less toxic than Twitter, but that’s not exactly a huge improvement.
I remember that on Twitter, if somebody decided to reply to you and to be a jerk, not only would you get a notification of that reply, you would get a notification if people liked that reply. Bluesky by default allows you to only view the feeds of people you follow or are mutuals with. These are all good things.
But since there is VC funding, and because they are looking for ways to expand, at any moment that rug can basically be pulled out from under people’s feet. It’s technically decentralized, but in practice, it’s probably 90%+ controlled by one company.
I agree. I initially moved over and just never really enjoyed opening the app for more than a couple minutes tops… I only keep it cuz some of the artists that I followed on Twitter moved over to Bluesky so I’m able to continue enjoying their content without the Nazis
Mastodon is the same, its a cesspit. Its the microblogging format that attracts the worst people and fosters the worst interactions.
I tend to agree. I simply don’t like the short form content. I never did. When twitter launched, I didn’t understand it, and I still don’t. It doesn’t facilitate conversation whatsoever. It’s just shitposting and one-liners and toxicity. We really lost something special when we moved from forums to shorter and shorter content platforms.
I think the worst aspect is being able to take someones very short post and then put your own post above it and boost it out to your followers. It leads to context being stripped and an influencer induced dogpile.
It was kind of inevitable.
I didn’t even know there were corpos on bluesky lol.
I don’t really use Bluesky I just bridged my Mastodon Account to bluesky and all I can say: There are more users bridging their Mastodon to Bluesky then Bluesky Users bridging to Mastodon.
Europe COULD push the Fediverse and show the Middlefinger to US Datahording Social Networks like Facebook, X/Twitter and Reddit but Some European Countries are not even close to the Digital Age.
And cocaine is better than caffeine
